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    I could use some plop now.

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    Soda more accurately describes the object in question. Considering there are more definitions for pop not outlining some sort of carbonated drink compared to the definitions for soda, it's safe to say that soda is the superior descriptor. So much ignorance.

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    So much ignorance?
    I'm being pretty objective here so the ignorance is clearly on the opposition who has failed to offer factual proof.

    *twitches*

    And because I'm a loser:

    Consider the first 10 pages of Soda:

    References to the drink:
    1. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soda">Soda - Wikipedia, the free Encylopedia</a>
    2. <a href="www.popvssoda.com">The Pop Vs. Soda Page</a>
    3. <a href="www.myjones.com/">Jones Soda</a>
    4. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_drink>Soft drink - Wikipedia, the free Encylopedia</a>
    5. <a href="www.yesmag.bc.ca/projects/tornado_tube.html"> Soda Bottle Cyclone</a>
    6. <a href="www.marvsclassics.ca/"> Marv's Classic Soda Shop</a> (Funny enough... it's a 50's diner HA!)
    7. <a href="www.popsoda.com">Pop The Soda Shop - Over 400 Beverages</a>
    8. <a href="www.sodamuseum.bigstep.com/"> Soda Museum</a>
    9. <a href="www.soda.net">The leading Soda Pop Site on the Net</a>
    10. <a href="www.sodaking.com">Soda King</a>
    11. <a href="www.georgehart.com/virtual-polyhedra/straw-tensegrity.html">Soda Straw Tensegrity Structures</a>
    12. <a href="www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Soda-Bottle-Volcano"> How to Make a Soda Bottle Volcano</a>
    13. <a href="www.jonessoda.com/files_new/turkey05.html">2005 Holiday Pack</a>
    14. <a href="www.sodamuseum.bigstep.com/"> Soda Museum</a>
    15. <a href="drinkbluesky.com/"> Blue Sky Beverage Company</a>
    16. <a href="www.sodapopstop.com/"> Galco's Soda Pop Stop</a>
    17. <a href="eepybird.com/dcm1.html">Coke and Mentos Fountain at Eepybird.com</a>
    18. <a href="pizzaidf.org/"> Pizza, Soda and Ice Cream, Hot & Cold Soup for our Israeli ...</a>
    19. <a href="www.coolmountain.com/">Cool Mountain Gourmet Soda</a>
    20. <a href="chuckwagonsoda.com/">Soda Franchise</a>
    21. <a href="www.sodaclubusa.com/"> Soda-Club</a>
    22. <a href="jetsetshow.com/2006/09/soda_popping.html">JETSET</a>
    23. <a href="www.lvsodapop.com/">The Soda Stand</a>
    24. <a href="www.blogthings.com/whatkindofsodaareyouquiz/">What kind of Soda are you</a>
    25. <a href="www.realsoda.com/">Real Soda in Real Bottles</a>
    26. <a href="www.alpharubicon.com/kids/makesoda.html ">Making Homemade Soda</a>
    27. <a href="www.mercola.com/2001/mar/10/soda_pop_dangers.htm">The Amazing Statistics and Dangers of Soda Pop 3/10/01</a>
    28. <a href="www.epix.net/~tjwagner/tab.html">Tab Soda Web</a>
    29. <A href="tagjag.com/discovery/jones.soda">"jones soda" in tagjag</a>
    30. <a href="steazsoda.com/">Healthy Beverage's Steaz Green Tea Soda - Home</a>
    31. <a href="www.themefifty.com/">Big Al's Soda Fountain and Grill</a> (Another 50's theme Diner)

    Common alternative uses of soda (mentioned more than 3 times):
    Club Soda (A brand and there for discountable)
    S.O.D.A (Symposium on Discrete Algorithms)
    Soda Creek (British Columbia)
    Soda Creek Band (An Aboriginal Tribe located near Soda Creek)
    Baking Soda
    Soda Springs (California)
    Soda Picturs (Movie Distribution)
    Soda Prills (Alkali Metals)
    Soda Ash


    Next consider the first 10 pages of Pop:
    1.<a href="www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/POP2.html"> What is POP?</a>
    2. <a href="www.popvssoda.com/">Soda Vs Pop Page</a>
    3.<a href="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop"> Pop - Wikipedia</a>


    So:

    31/100 vs 3/100

    IF. we can assume then that 31% of soda urls will indeed refer to the drink and 3% of the pop urls will refer to the drink then we may conclude that:

    31% of 39,600,000 results for soda = 12,276,000

    3% of 432,000,000 results for pop = 12,960,000

    These results still demonstrate that pop has the higher probability of being used as a reference to the drink despite the greater amount of definitions pop has.

    (If I included something twice that's because it occured twice and for the sake of objective reasoning I refuse to intervene with the process of creating fair and objective results)
    Last edited by Chemical; 01-20-2007 at 07:50 AM.

    Boldly go.

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    Erm... how hard do you want to be right? Seriously, the "correct" way dosen't exist, people call things by both, just soda more commonly, as a universal reference for all people.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemical View Post
    And I can't do this anymore - this pop thing is getting too serious for my liking :P
    There is nothing more serious.

    Consider the fact that people who say "soda" in place of "pop" are more than five times as likely to be communists than the average person. (Source: http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/cl...manifesto.html) It makes me sick, quite frankly.

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    Chemical: are you being deliberately thick? Soda, in actual conversation, is used to mean "carbonated drink" FAR more than any other definition.

    People who say "pop" instead of "soda" are eight times as likely to be uneducated hillbillies.

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    Could you repeat that in English? I don't speak Commie.

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    Can you repeat that once you've passed grade-school English? I don't speak hillbilly.

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    I hate you so much.

    I hope you burn in Commie Hell.

    Where exactly are you getting your facts? From the Communist Manifesto?




    The only thick one here is the stuborn mule who can't appreciate fair objective support that demonstrates "pop" is used more frequently than "soda."

    Quote Originally Posted by www.popvssoda.com:

    ABSTRACT
    Using the World Wide Web to gather and process data from across English-speaking North America, I intend to plot the regional variations in the use of the terms "Pop" and "Soda" to describe carbonated soft drinks.

    RESEARCH
    The primary source of data for this study will be submissions from readers of this web page. Obviously, this may not be a completely random sampling, but since the primary objective of the study is to map the regional distribution and not the population distribution per response, this sample should suffice. Also, since a large percentage of internet users are college students who may use dialects not local to their current place of residence, this survey asks for the respondent's "home town" and the beverage-term used by most of the population there. This data will be imperfect at best, but should be the most accurate possible without actually going into the field, and certainly the most comprehensive study of the field to date.
    This research uses CGI scripts written in Perl to gather and process the incoming data, and displays the results on the map above using a Java applet.

    CONCLUSION
    People who say "Pop" are much, much cooler

    http://www.popvssoda.com/stats/ALL.html
    Pop is more frequently used than soda.
    Last edited by Chemical; 01-20-2007 at 07:46 PM.

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    coke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz View Post
    Vanilla Coke was horrible.
    My dislike for you has increased tenfold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Can you repeat that once you've passed grade-school English? I don't speak hillbilly.
    Is that the best you got? I think your slipping in your old age. You used to say such effective and awesome retorts and insults, but now you've degraded to this?

    I am sorry my friend, I hope you regain your glory soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch! View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz View Post
    Vanilla Coke was horrible.
    My dislike for you Vanilla Coke has increased tenfold.
    Excellent.

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    I've lived in Oregon. No one there says "pop". I question the legitimacy of that map. What's more likely is that the coastal areas use the appropriate "soda" descriptor while the less educated rural populations of the Midwest and South use the incorrect "pop" descriptor. No one cares what Canadians have to say on the matter.

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    I think all fizzy drinks should be called "Fizzy Water" and all alcoholic beverages should be called "Dizzy Water". And anything that doesn't fit into those categories should be called "Spwish". Except for water, which will of course stay the same.

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