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    Sunny days! The earliest episodes of “Sesame Street” are available on digital video! Break out some Keebler products, fire up the DVD player and prepare for the exquisite pleasure-pain of top-shelf nostalgia.
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    Just don’t bring the children. According to an earnest warning on Volumes 1 and 2, “Sesame Street: Old School” is adults-only: “These early ‘Sesame Street’ episodes are intended for grown-ups, and may not suit the needs of today’s preschool child.”

    Say what? At a recent all-ages home screening, a hush fell over the room. “What did they do to us?” asked one Gen-X mother of two, finally. The show rolled, and the sweet trauma came flooding back. What they did to us was hard-core. Man, was that scene rough. The masonry on the dingy brownstone at 123 Sesame Street, where the closeted Ernie and Bert shared a dismal basement apartment, was deteriorating. Cookie Monster was on a fast track to diabetes. Oscar’s depression was untreated. Prozacky Elmo didn’t exist.

    Nothing in the children’s entertainment of today, candy-colored animation hopped up on computer tricks, can prepare young or old for this frightening glimpse of simpler times. Back then — as on the very first episode, which aired on PBS Nov. 10, 1969 — a pretty, lonely girl like Sally might find herself befriended by an older male stranger who held her hand and took her home. Granted, Gordon just wanted Sally to meet his wife and have some milk and cookies, but . . . well, he could have wanted anything. As it was, he fed her milk and cookies. The milk looks dangerously whole.

    Live-action cows also charge the 1969 screen — cows eating common grass, not grain improved with hormones. Cows are milked by plain old farmers, who use their unsanitary hands and fill one bucket at a time. Elsewhere, two brothers risk concussion while whaling on each other with allergenic feather pillows. Overweight layabouts, lacking touch-screen iPods and headphones, jockey for airtime with their deafening transistor radios. And one of those radios plays a late-’60s news report — something about a “senior American official” and “two billion in credit over the next five years” — that conjures a bleak economic climate, with war debt and stagflation in the offing.

    The old “Sesame Street” is not for the faint of heart, and certainly not for softies born since 1998, when the chipper “Elmo’s World” started. Anyone who considers bull markets normal, extracurricular activities sacrosanct and New York a tidy, governable place — well, the original “Sesame Street” might hurt your feelings.

    I asked Carol-Lynn Parente, the executive producer of “Sesame Street,” how exactly the first episodes were unsuitable for toddlers in 2007. She told me about Alistair Cookie and the parody “Monsterpiece Theater.” Alistair Cookie, played by Cookie Monster, used to appear with a pipe, which he later gobbled. According to Parente, “That modeled the wrong behavior” — smoking, eating pipes — “so we reshot those scenes without the pipe, and then we dropped the parody altogether.”

    Which brought Parente to a feature of “Sesame Street” that had not been reconstructed: the chronically mood-disordered Oscar the Grouch. On the first episode, Oscar seems irredeemably miserable — hypersensitive, sarcastic, misanthropic. (Bert, too, is described as grouchy; none of the characters, in fact, is especially sunshiney except maybe Ernie, who also seems slow.) “We might not be able to create a character like Oscar now,” she said.

    Snuffleupagus is visible only to Big Bird; since 1985, all the characters can see him, as Big Bird’s old protestations that he was not hallucinating came to seem a little creepy, not to mention somewhat strained. As for Cookie Monster, he can be seen in the old-school episodes in his former inglorious incarnation: a blue, googly-eyed cookievore with a signature gobble (“om nom nom nom”). Originally designed by Jim Henson for use in commercials for General Foods International and Frito-Lay, Cookie Monster was never a righteous figure. His controversial conversion to a more diverse diet wouldn’t come until 2005, and in the early seasons he comes across a Child’s First Addict.

    The biggest surprise of the early episodes is the rural — agrarian, even — sequences. Episode 1 spends a stoned time warp in the company of backlighted cows, while they mill around and chew cud. This pastoral scene rolls to an industrial voiceover explaining dairy farms, and the sleepy chords of Joe Raposo’s aimless masterpiece, “Hey Cow, I See You Now.” Chewing the grass so green/Making the milk/Waiting for milking time/Waiting for giving time/Mmmmm.

    Oh, what’s that? Right, the trance of early “Sesame Street” and its country-time sequences. In spite of the show’s devotion to its “target child,” the “4-year-old inner-city black youngster” (as The New York Times explained in 1979), the first episodes join kids cavorting in amber waves of grain — black children, mostly, who must be pressed into service as the face of America’s farms uniquely on “Sesame Street.”
    Meh, perhaps I'm not able to say anything since I didn't grow up with this Sesame Street, but it still sounds weird.

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    Sesame Street was about real life, man! Not like this new bollocks that's all happy. Sesame Street prepared me for the rocky road to adulthood! So yeah, I 'spose it could be considered a bit different to kids' TV nowadays.

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    Just wait until they get to the volume where Mister Hooper dies.

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    That's the sesame street I remember. I was watching it back in 1985 when it was still crazy, and in my opinion way cooler. Cookie Monster was still cookie crazy. He smoked his pipe at Monster Piece theatre, I remember that very well and it didn't send any negative images to me. Oscar was moody and grouchy, and that was awesome! I remember the grouchy Bert too, and it made the skits between the two much more interesting. Especially the one where he was sitting in the park feeding the pidgeons because he was feeling down and grouchy. They had Super Grover back then too, which was basically Grover with a cape on his back and a kitchen strainer on his head. He was my absolute favorite. Kermit also used to do these awesome skits where he would, "Hi-Ho, Kermit the frog here reporting from the scene of..." and it would be a parody of famous stories. Like one where he was reporting from Rapunzels tower. It had the prince saying Rapunzel Rapunzel throw down your hair. She would scream what. Then he would repeat it louder and she would scream what again. Final the prince would SCREAM Rapunzel Rapunzel throw down your hair, and she would reply with Oh, why didn't you say so, and then throw down her wig which she was bald underneath. It was hilarious. Once Elmo got popular the show got completely teeth grating worthy. It's horrible being that chipper. The show also used to have an electronics repair shop where a lot of skits played out, and they always had the same broken toaster on the counter top.
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    theundeadhero wins....big time. I remember it exactly as you. At least the count didn't change.

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    If that is true what you say, Undead Hero, either I misrecorded my birth year or I was watching Re-Runs. I pretty much remember it that way, which makes it even more weird to me that it is Adult-Only now.

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    And here I thought this was about Avenue Q

    I don't remember watching much Sesame Street when I was little though.

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    I guess I was seeing re-runs or sumthin...I was born in '91 and I remember some of this stuff


    I never wanted to smoke then eat a pipe 'cuz cookie monster did it...I did want a cigarette after seeing how cool my parents looked smoking, though

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    Yeah, hero hit the nail on the head. I remember all of that too, and it was awesome. I remember the episode with Rapunzel xD
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    I remember all of that too. Except the part at the bottom about the trippin' cows. Well, I wasn't around then but I definatly remember all the characters being the ways they are described in the article back in the 80's when I used to watch it. It's a pity that they have to be politically correct now, it destroys their great characters and makes them all the same
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    If you really want an adult Sesame Street download some Wonder Showzen. I can't really describe it because this is a family forum, but be warned that it is highly offensive to some and not politically correct.
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    I was more a Shining Time Station (hosted by Ringo Starr) kind of kid, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm View Post
    theundeadhero wins....big time. I remember it exactly as you. At least the count didn't change.
    Was the Count supposed to be a vampire? Yes? Then did they ever do an episode where he killed someone and sucked his blood for sustinance? No? Well, he wasn't that great of a vampire then, was he?

    Seriously though, find the video, Sesame Street Presents Follow That Bird. It's everything Sesame Street used to be and it's hilarious. Cookie Monster eats the whole car by the end of the trip. You can probably find the DVD for not much more than $5, or if you have a DVR, it comes on cable every now and then. You could record it. I don't know why they had to smurf up Sesame Street. It was fine the way it was. Maybe it's time to cancel the show because we know it's not getting any better now.


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    Was that the movie where Big Bird runs away? The one where he gets kidnapped by a circus and they shine a blue light on him to make him a big blue bird, because a big yellow one just wasn't freakish enough?
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    You got the right movie, but you're wrong about some of what happens in it. He doesn't run away. Child Services takes him away and puts him with a family with whom he's not happy. So he tries to walk home not knowing it's much too far a distance to walk. Yes, he gets kidnapped by a couple of struggling carnies who paint him blue and use him as an attaction called The Bluebird Of Happiness. Hope I haven't spoiled the movie for those who hadn't seen it.


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