He still does it sometimes though. Remember the way he wiped out the Raknos's babies in that Christmas episode which scared Donna? Or how he handed out individual punishments to that family of scarecrow alien thingies?
He still does it sometimes though. Remember the way he wiped out the Raknos's babies in that Christmas episode which scared Donna? Or how he handed out individual punishments to that family of scarecrow alien thingies?
It wouldn't have been quite as bad if the lead-up to the finale hadn't been so good. I just don't get what happened. We were all waiting for something spectacular.
It wasn't as bad as Voyage of the Damned, though. I suppose there's that.
(SPOILER)Nothing in Doctor Who is ever final, and the effect of everything is lessened considerably every time they do a LOOK WHO'S COMING BACK! story. The Daleks aren't even remotely creepy anymore, and bringing them back after they totally degraded them, with the spinning around and PUSHING them away and laughing, will just be pushing it too damn far. Not that that will stop them.Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
(SPOILER)I didn't understand that at all. How does seeing him face to face and SPEAKING to him not remind me of it? I don't get it!
I was under the impression that Dalek shots do not "injure". One hit kill, I thought.
Yet another series with the grumpy old depressed Doctor....
I thought the shot only side swiped him as it trails on off camera when he is hit.
Also, I hope they have a 3rd series of Torchwood with Martha and Mickey, that's be aces.
I loved this final episode, I thought it was a great way to end. Who cares about all the Deus Ex Machina? It's sci-fi and the one rule of sci-fi is "It doesn't have to make sense, it's smurfing sci-fi".
As for Steve Moffat taking over writing, I think I said earlier on in the thread that I was excited about this when I read about it a few months ago.
You hold my heart in your manly hands I wanna feel the throb of your handsome gland. I wanna hold you tight like a newborn kitten, against my flesh like a cashmere mitten. Tickly tick, I'm makin' skin bump heaven and all the way down it's lookin' cleanly shaven. Prickety pricks, it's stubble on stubble I better slow down or I'm in real trouble. Want you, touch you, feel you, taste you! Knick knack whacky whack 'till I see the man stew. spin you around let me see that hole! I'm a tunnelin' in a like a short hair mole. Once I'm inside I'm gonna leave a trace, half in there and half on that face! One finger, two finger, there fingers gone! Mano a mano I love you John!
Oh yeah, Moffat's are brilliant. I can't wait to see more of him!
It depresses the <img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /><img src="http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif" alt="skull" /> out of me to see something like this. I want to know where sci-fi went wrong, if a complete lack of internal consistency is acceptable and even expected. Sci-fi doesn't have to have any bearing on the real world, but it does have to be coherent. Doctor Who isn't sci-fi, it's just silliness that uses sci-fi tropes.
Or you might be right, and an attempt at internal consistency, overarching plot, coherent characters, and general believability isn't why Babylon 5 is one of the greatest things ever made.
I never liked Babylon 5.
It was a good episode though, I'm just going to enjoy it instead of breaking out the magnifying glass to pick it apart.
I didn't watch so much of the earlier (ie, pre-2000's) series, so can someone tell me, in these earlier series...
1) Did the Doctor ever try to save a race before doing any damage to it? If so, then I don't see the problem with him carrying on that 'moralist' kind of thing.
2) Did the Daleks (or any 'famous' race) ever come back after being 'gone forever'? If so, I don't see the problem with them doing that again, either.
I think that RTD did something that he was wanting to do, which was for him as much as for the audience. He wanted to get every main character from his time together to end his Doctor Who series, sort of a finale in more ways than just the fact that this particular season is ending. I think it was sort of like a reunion before everyone goes their seperate ways, and I don't think RTD is the kind of guy to want to leave it on a "to be continued" way, but more the kind of guy to leave a clean slate for the next writer. He wrote out every single person but the Doctor, allowing Moffat to set up the Doc's mood, companion, whatever. It's all up to Moffat now, as it should be. If they kept any of the existing companions actively involved, it would have been a bit eh for me if I was a writer.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
I can't believe you're complaining about contrived plot elements when talking about Doctor Who for chrissakes. The acting is bad, everything is overdramatic, and the dialogue is so bad it reminds me of Resident Evil. I watched a few episodes and now view it as a comedy.
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most of the time, no. he very frequently, especially during the later doctors, tried to kill all the enemys. In Rememberence of the Daleks for instance, he sent the Hand Of Omega into a sun, which destroyed the Daleks home planet, and then sent it back to smash into davros' mothership. that seems to be devoid of all morals, so why introduce them now?
I think the reason to introduce them now was that he is, to his knowledge, the last of his race and for that reason he now doesn't want to destroy other things, nor does he like carrying guns etc. Could be wrong, though. I like that aspect, though. Having him not worry about killing off races would make him just another action hero.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
i know what you mean i s'pose
he never used to carry guns in the first place btw
it just gets to me sometimes when something has been mercylessly killing innocent people, and he stands there begging for it to survive. it just isnt really believeable. or maybe im just sadistic?
I agree with Jeff. I like the Doctor's "life yey!" attitude, but sometimes it's ridiculous. I liked Eccleston's Doctor because he was fairly nice and everything, but if some bastard thing threatened innocent people, he kicked their arses out their mouths. David Tennant has a great Angel of Death face, and he should get to use it more often. For example, when Daleks are threatening to destory every reality ever.
But surely the point is that that Tennant's Doctor is not the same as Ecclestone's, hence the way they appoach things differently (such as how Tennant's Who likes humans etc whereas Ecclestone would often be exasperated by them and call them 'stupid apes').
"Excuse me Miss, do you like pineapple?"
Ah that's true. The Regeneration completely changes him, doesn't it?
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