Sorry for making it confusing. There are people out there who claim "evolution is how we got here don't deny it." when their evidence is as concrete as the Bible's explanation on creationism.\Originally Posted by Vivisteiner
But there are Bible beaters who say "evolution hasn't, isn't and will never happen," when there IS evidence that defeats this claim.
I do believe we are in total agreement BTW.
This guy sounds like a mook.
I used to have friends who would act one way when it was just the two of us and a totally different way when we around a big group. That always annoyed me. I guess they were trying to be "cool" or something.
I've since moved out of state and my new friends are all awesome
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Cool. Although evolution is part of the explanation on how we got here. I mean, it tells us how simple organisms eventually became complex ones like ourselves. But it doesnt explain how the simple ones came about. So its sort of like half the explanation.Sorry for making it confusing. There are people out there who claim "evolution is how we got here don't deny it." when their evidence is as concrete as the Bible's explanation on creationism.\
But there are Bible beaters who say "evolution hasn't, isn't and will never happen," when there IS evidence that defeats this claim.
I do believe we are in total agreement BTW.
I could tell you...but wouldnt you rather see for yourself?Are you always like this?
Oh wait...you did.*reads thread*
Answered my own question there... ^_^
"They said this day would never come. They said our sights were set too high. They said this country was too divided, too disillusioned to ever come around a common purpose. But on this January night, at this defining moment in history, you have done what the cynics said we couldn't do." - Barack Obama.
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There has been no proof that evolution actually exists. The big proof that is totally missing is transitional fossils. These are imperative to prove evolution. They have not been found, 150 years after the theory was put forth. Darwin himself said that if proof had not been found by his death, then evolution was not true.
Oh, well in that case....:rolleyes2
There are countless transitional fossils (look them up, they're well documented on easily-accessible internet articles). All of the 'deathbed confession' nonsense about Darwin is usually mis-represented quote-mining which deliberately aims to skew his words. Furthermore, without evolutionary science, then none of the biological sciences make sense. It's an over-arching framework that links them all seamlessly.There has been no proof that evolution actually exists. The big proof that is totally missing is transitional fossils. These are imperative to prove evolution. They have not been found, 150 years after the theory was put forth. Darwin himself said that if proof had not been found by his death, then evolution was not true.
*sigh*There has been no proof that evolution actually exists. The big proof that is totally missing is transitional fossils. These are imperative to prove evolution. They have not been found, 150 years after the theory was put forth. Darwin himself said that if proof had not been found by his death, then evolution was not true.
Thats a huge misconception.
There are loads of 'transitional' fossils.
List of transitional fossils - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Read that. As the article says, the whole concept of transitional fossils is essentially flawed because every fossil could be viewed as being transitionional. There is no starting and final destination.
And your comment about what Darwin said, could I have the exact quote? I tried looking for it but couldnt find it. Most of these 'arguments' come from quote mining to the extreme.
"They said this day would never come. They said our sights were set too high. They said this country was too divided, too disillusioned to ever come around a common purpose. But on this January night, at this defining moment in history, you have done what the cynics said we couldn't do." - Barack Obama.
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I hate my roommate. More than anything.
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Severely religious people...
Sure, have faith! That's a great thing! BUT DON'T GO KNOCKING ON MY DAMN DOOR AND TRY TO CONVERT ME!!
People who insult politicians that don't know anything about politics. ARGH! I don't know that much but I at least have the decency not to whine about them when I don't even know what they do properly!
And last, it's just getting a bit too much but not necessarily irritating- people who argue over the creation vs evolution... mainly focused on religion vs science to be honest. I am tired of people arguing over this any time someone mentions something about god/evolution. Please go take your argument somewhere else.
I followed the link, and even the website didn't say it was set in stone.
"This is a very tentative list of transitional fossils"
"An ideal list would only recursively include 'true' transitionals"
Also, I found this link.
Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?
It seems that there is good evidence to support it, but there is also evidence against it.
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Whether or not Darwin was a Christian has no impact on the validity of the theory of evolution. Many of the greatest western scientists have been Christian, so it's not a question of their faith - it's all about their ability to assess observable evidence and theorise using ration and logic.
I personally know gifted scientists who are Christian, Hindu, Pantheistic and utterly Godless.
But then it gives you a whole list of transitionals, and some of them are 'true' transitionals. Although the idea of searching for transitional fossils is kind of flawed anyway, as I explained earlier.I followed the link, and even the website didn't say it was set in stone.
"This is a very tentative list of transitional fossils"
"An ideal list would only recursively include 'true' transitionals"
Also, I found this link.
Did Darwin become a Christian on his deathbed?
It seems that there is good evidence to support it, but there is also evidence against it.
Bug D answered your other question perfectly.
"They said this day would never come. They said our sights were set too high. They said this country was too divided, too disillusioned to ever come around a common purpose. But on this January night, at this defining moment in history, you have done what the cynics said we couldn't do." - Barack Obama.
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This entire thread is a perfect example of things that make me want to squish bugs.
Bunnies eat bugs, too.
wow, the last 3 posts all had bugs in them.
And mine was unintentional.
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