Quote Originally Posted by Vivisteiner View Post
Wilson wasnt that great either. He was far too idealistic, and his solutions were often impractical.
It wasn't the world's best idea, but it certainly more lenient on the Germans. I was merely using it as a reference to what would've been further from LOLRAGEQUIT.

Quote Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight View Post
Germany started the first world war! How can they not be held accountable for that? The french and english did go over the top, but they just got out of a war that ruined their countries.
Actually, no they didn't, not that it's the point being argued. The start of the first World War began with the assassination of Ferdinand of Austria-Hungary. Russia declared war on the rebels, which forced the Triple Alliance and the Triple Entente to head into effect, which caused a chain of war declarations. Germany never started anything; they followed the suit of Austria-Hungary, which withdrew (or was very close to it) from the war due to a number of reasons, iirc, internal strife and displeasure with the war. With Italy having betrayed the Alliance a while ago, and AH unable to contribute, Germany found itself fighting against a number of enemy nations, alone. Methods taken against AH were not nearly as fierce, among one of them being a split between the two countries.

Quote Originally Posted by Vivisteiner View Post
France, Britain and America were also partly responible for World War II being so bad once Hitler reached power. They screwed up the league of nations, they used a terrible policy of appeasement ultimately let Hitler toy with them left, right and centre. (They were so afraid of War)
To be perfectly fair, the States did not join the League of Nations, which is a fault of its own, but not necessarily related to having dealt with Germany, and was not quite nearly as involved in the punishment of Germany. At that point, the States were rather isolationist, due to the Depression, and didn't even get anywhere close to out of Depression until the Pacific Theater broke out.