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    EDIT: Mine's better. :P And I have an even better one if you want to see it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight View Post
    I second Roto13's argument and therefore I am not pirating.

    Yey! :)
    It's still illegal. xP

    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    I also shouldn't have to pay $20-$30 dollars to own a movie I will probably only watch a few times and then never watch again except out of boredom.
    Go rent it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    I shouldn't have to pay $50-$80 dollars for a single season of a television show that has, at most, 17-20 episodes on it, each of which are under 45 minutes in length with crappy "dvd bonus extras". Then I have to pay another outrageous fee to watch the next season of it (if it has one).

    I also shouldn't have to pay $20-$30 dollars to own a movie I will probably only watch a few times and then never watch again except out of boredom.

    Also paying $50-$60 on a video game is pretty heavy price to pay. I wouldn't be so for piracy if things weren't overpriced out the hole in my butt.
    Honestly, if you want to have those things you have to pay for them.

    ... and $60 is not much for a video game. They cost 100 bucks here, so I don't see what you americans are moaning about.

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    We had someone in our class who was oh-so self righteous about piracy and all his friends slagged him off and took the piss constantly for it. Go work for FACT (or whatever you have in whatever country you're in) if you wanna act all vigilant about it.

    I still continue to demand that I be allowed to pay reasonable money for any copyrighted material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    I also shouldn't have to pay $20-$30 dollars to own a movie I will probably only watch a few times and then never watch again except out of boredom.
    Go rent it?
    Yeah, you could rent them. But around here, it is usually $5 to rent a movie for a few days, usually three. If it is brought back even a minute after the due date and due time, you have to pay late fees which usually end up being twice the amount of what you rented the movie for. Also if the dvd is damage through not fault of your own you have to buy the movie for retail price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny View Post
    I shouldn't have to pay $50-$80 dollars for a single season of a television show that has, at most, 17-20 episodes on it, each of which are under 45 minutes in length with crappy "dvd bonus extras". Then I have to pay another outrageous fee to watch the next season of it (if it has one).

    I also shouldn't have to pay $20-$30 dollars to own a movie I will probably only watch a few times and then never watch again except out of boredom.

    Also paying $50-$60 on a video game is pretty heavy price to pay. I wouldn't be so for piracy if things weren't overpriced out the hole in my butt.
    Honestly, if you want to have those things you have to pay for them.

    ... and $60 is not much for a video game. They cost 100 bucks here, so I don't see what you americans are moaning about.
    I have absolutely no problem with buying things. I just have a problem paying an overpriced fee to buy something that shouldn't be overpriced in the first place. It doesn't cost them $60-$80 dollars to produce a DVD set of a season of television.

    As far as the $100 video game, what's your currency equal to in relation of US dollars?

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    Y'know what's worse than piracy? Region codes. Cheeky corporate bastards.

    Bunny: New games here usually cost £40-£50. Now that's over-priced. If anyone wants to give me reason to not hate these things (but love them oh so much), then feel free to throw some cost-to-makes at me.

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    Piracy is unquestionably theft. That said, entertainment on all media formats is overpriced, so I don't blame people for downloading their favourite TV shows or music. I don't do illegal downloads, but I share CDs with my friends all the time, and that's basically the same thing. It's stealing, and there's no point in trying to justify it as anything but.
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    I played god by creating a monster (the thread). Then I didnt take responsibility for it (i.e. not contributing to the thread), just like mankind

    Well, its getting there at least...

    Piracy (or file-sharing if thats the correct technical term) IS theft, theres no denying it. Doesnt matter if your not getting rid of the original copy, your stealing the copyright. But I guess everyone knows this.
    I always wondered this:

    Would you not get it if it wasnt available for file-sharing?
    If you WERE going to buy it, would file-sharing stop you?

    No real way to know... Statistics will never exist for this kind of stuff..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miriel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight View Post
    I second Roto13's argument and therefore I am not pirating.

    Yey!
    Does lying to yourself help you sleep better at night?
    I've never lost a night sleep on it, and you can't talk me a guilt on this. I spend more on this crap than any of you, I'd recon.

    And being a student I don't have the money to buy it all, or I would.

    So yes, no sleep trouble here.

    Oh and by this definition, recording TV on a DVR would be piracy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight View Post
    I second Roto13's argument and therefore I am not pirating.

    Yey!
    It's still illegal. xP
    I know, but I don't make money on it, do I? So they can't actually do anything. It's like fanfiction. If you put a disclaimer on the top saying you make no money and it isn't yours, they can't hurt you.(how much they'd like to make you think they can)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
    Be honest, you wouldn't.
    Yes, I would. I would then drive it against a myriad of other downloaded cars in a simulated race around a downloaded track that resembles the DC Beltway.

    Also, people, piracy != theft (as Roto has delightfully shown us). To say that they are is like saying that metaphor is the same as a simile. You can say "but they're alike" all you want. You're still wrong.

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    I used to pirate an awful lot. I downloaded loads of music and videos through torrents. Torrent use at my school (even for legal purposes) is strictly forbidden. Once detected, they shut down internet connectivity. To restore connectivity, one must go to the tech center to reestablish it (an obnoxious and likely embarrassing affair since people know you're there for trying to steal something). If this is repeated three times, you are sent to the Dean of Students; I do believe you can get suspended or expelled.

    As a result, I've not pirated anything at school. After being at school for eight months, I got out of the habit and didn't download anything this summer either.

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    I download crap all the time. If it's something I really want to own, I'll buy it, but otherwise I'll download it.

    You know what's a giant pain in the ass? Anti-piracy measures. What do they accomplish, exactly, besides driving people to download? Spore was cracked the other day and it's not even out yet, so instead of doing anything at all to prevent people from sharing their game, all they've done is inconvenience the people who are going to buy it legally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roto13 View Post
    I download crap all the time. If it's something I really want to own, I'll buy it, but otherwise I'll download it.

    You know what's a giant pain in the ass? Anti-piracy measures. What do they accomplish, exactly, besides driving people to download? Spore was cracked the other day and it's not even out yet, so instead of doing anything at all to prevent people from sharing their game, all they've done is inconvenience the people who are going to buy it legally.
    True, I think one of the toughest ones to get around was steam(took the longest, at least), but they did anyway.


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    Stop saying piracy is stealing, because it isn't. Copyright infringement and theft are two different things, but that doesn't make the former any less illegal :p.

    I break the law by pirating, sure, but I don't steal.
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    Geez, in the common sense of the word, it IS stealing. Blah blah copyright infringement, whatever. It's like Bill Clinton trying to argue that oral sex isn't "sexual relations".

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    I don't exactly lose sleep over it.

    Except that one time I had nightmares about my mom using Kazaa. Phew.

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