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Thread: What? How do you Lose an Odyssey!?

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    Default What? How do you Lose an Odyssey!?

    So I made a whole huge long post about how epic this game was before the forums crashed and I'm far too lazy to go on about just how awesome this game is and how it easily destroys every RPG Square and most other companies have made in the past decade. So here's the condensed version.

    Just got it, played most the way through, love the entire game and think this is one of the greatest RPG's ever to grace the planet and am looking forward to the supposed sequel and all future Mistwalker/Sakaguchi games.

    So then, let us discuss this truly epic of a game.
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    It is a pretty good game but doesn't really add anything new to the genre.

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    Who cares about adding something new to the genre? People have been doing that for a decade and failed every time. What's wrong with the basics and classics? They work, their fun, and best yet they work. Why the need to fix something that isn't broken?
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    Cause casual players and critics get bored easily. :rolleyes2

    RPGs have always been traditionally a thinking/strategy game so the less thought the better. Mostly I feel its to attract new players who grew up listening to how boring and unrealistic Turn Base combat is. Its a very misunderstood genre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Cause casual players and critics get bored easily. :rolleyes2
    Pffft if someone can't appreciate a good game they should go back to playing Halo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Cause casual players and critics get bored easily. :rolleyes2
    Pffft if someone can't appreciate a good game they should go back to playing Halo.
    I agree but the industry is a business and unfortunately, most companies keep trying to expand their fanbase rather than keep the core fanbase happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X View Post
    Who cares about adding something new to the genre?
    A lot of people actually. Having played this style of role-playing game since the Megadrive I welcome any new innovation to the genre. Most games bring at least one significant change to their game but Mistwalker made hardly any for Lost Odyssey. It then has to rely on its other aspects like story, music, setting etc and I hardly think Lost Odyssey blows everything else out of the water with any of those.

    There is a reason why Valkyria Chronicles is the highest rated RPG this generation. Its because its unlike anything you have played before and truly shows how to move the genre forward. Lost Odyssey is tempting everyone to stay put and stick to the basics. Mistwalker are taking the easy way out by rehashing the same concept over and over again. I'm sure people new to RPG's don't mind but I can't say I'm thrilled over Lost Odyssey.

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    Bought this game a couple days ago, pretty good, haven't gotten that far yet.

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    Better than some, not the best, worth a playthrough. That was about it for me.

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    It's Hironobu's game was of course it's great! I want to try this game, but unfortunately it's on the 360 and I'll probably never get one of those unless I get filthy rich and I don't think the game is ever going to come onto the PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreddz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut2000X View Post
    Who cares about adding something new to the genre?
    A lot of people actually. Having played this style of role-playing game since the Megadrive I welcome any new innovation to the genre. Most games bring at least one significant change to their game but Mistwalker made hardly any for Lost Odyssey. It then has to rely on its other aspects like story, music, setting etc and I hardly think Lost Odyssey blows everything else out of the water with any of those.

    There is a reason why Valkyria Chronicles is the highest rated RPG this generation. Its because its unlike anything you have played before and truly shows how to move the genre forward. Lost Odyssey is tempting everyone to stay put and stick to the basics. Mistwalker are taking the easy way out by rehashing the same concept over and over again. I'm sure people new to RPG's don't mind but I can't say I'm thrilled over Lost Odyssey.
    With regards to innovation, I have to agree with Dreddz. I've been playing RPG's for some 16 odd years. If all of them stuck to the basics I'd have given up on the genre entirely by now. As it is I save my time and money for truly exceptional and original RPG's these days.

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    While I'll agree each one changing it a bit is good, the past few years especially, have just gone over the top with game companies trying to top themselves on redefining the genre for the 24236724th time and spending so much time on changing it, they ignore the things that make an RPG an RPG, which is the story and characters. Case in point FFXII, SE spent so much time developing a new system and putting in game play they forgot a story.

    Lost Odyssey actually showed you could have a good enjoyable game even if you didn't recreate the genre, by simply just going back to the basics and making a good story, great characters and actually using them and involving them in the game, and adding in some fun little scenarios to make dungeons and boss fights more then just hack and slash fests.

    In my opinion their going back and just doing a game using the bare basics of what it means to be an RPG and not trying to top every game before them in redefining something, that's already pretty well defined, I think was the best thing they could have done.
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    I'd heard the game plays like the developers saying "We're totally not still making Final Fantasy games honest," and the standard JRPG plotlines/gameplay don't really hold much interest for me anymore considering how overdone they are, so I'll probably give this one a miss.

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    Thousand Years of Dreams = yey etc etc old post.

    Also, I like the Skill Link idea. All my characters are at roughly the same level, just because I want my immortals to be pwnage (what?). Having said that, as soon as everyone's learnt every skill they can, I'm chucking the mortals.

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    As I said before, I really like this game. I do agree that RPGs need innovation, but there's nothing wrong with games that stick to a game formula that's tried and true. Why not have games of both kind? It's a win-win situation in my opinion; those who can't stand turn based old-school RPGs play games like Valkyria Chronicles, the others play games like Dragon Quest, Lost Odyssey, etc. (though I personally don't care much for Dragon Quest). Besides, 1000 years of dreams is pretty innovative to me. I don't know any other game with such a feature.


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