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Information behind Zodiac Spear
In various strategy guides and forums, I've read about the four chests you must not open to be able to collect Zodiac Spear in Necrohol of Nabudis. I wondered if there's a way to get this information in the game - like, for exmple, that it's mentioned in any of the bestiary entries.
Please note that I haven't finished the game yet (shame on me!), so please try not to include spoilers in your answer. Thank you!
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I finished the game long time ago but I don't recall any hints about the four chests...That's why I had to go collect mine at Henne Mines , and believe me that wasn't fun at all
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nope no ingame info that i have come across... if GameFAQs weren't around to ruin the print industry it'd be a super secret that you could only find in a strategy guide...
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Meh. I wonder what lead Square to do this . I always liked Final Fantasies for their open world, where (after certain point in the game) you could roam the world as you liked, pick the subquests you liked and possibly find any weapon you liked.
I suppose the same goes for the Bazaar "recipes", doesn't it? Or can these recipes be found in the game? I know it they can be worked out by selling the loot carefully, but frankly, that's time-consuming a lot + I see no fun in that (and I'd like to stay out of the Strategy Guides for my first playthrough).
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You get Bazaar recipes from the Beastiery. If you kill enough of a creature you get extra info that usually details elements of the world. Other times it gives you info on items you need to make some of the items or even where to find the rare items. Except for the Ultimate weapons, you should stumble upon on all the weapons the Bazaar can make for you naturally if memeory serves me correct. At least, I know I didn't have to look up any except the Ultimate Weapons.
The Zodiac Spear is a throwback to old school titles from the 8-bit/16-bit era. Like War Mech from FFI or the Emperor Sword in BoF. It was only meant to be found by either people who play the game religiously or from the strategy guide. Its a bitch for completionist or people who like being overpowered, but overall; I feel its not terribly important.
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Don't open any chests in Lowtown, The Royal Palace, the place where you get your stuff back after escaping the Nalbina Dungeon, or the Phon Coast area with a large square of multiple chests. Do that and you're guaranteed not to ruin your chances of getting the thing.
Also, what Mullet said. I can't stand this "let's make a game for the purpose of having a guide" idea. It's bollocks. I buy guides for games that I find amazingly brilliant, not ones that wouldn't be 100% without them.
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Hell yeah. It's just not right. The way I play FF is that when playing for the first time I don't use any guide. Of course ,I'll probably miss some items,materia or etc...But it was always my fault because there were always some hints no matter how hard to spot. But in FF XII there were just so many random things , such as Zodiac Spear , with no hint whatsoever. Not even a slightest hint which would indicate it's existence...Where's the point in that?
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Wolf Kanno, I can see your point. What I find different about Zodiac Spear from the examples you mentioned is the fact that you can screw up your chances to get it very early in the game. I mean - I know there's still the chest in Henne Mines to boot, but that's really time-consuming way to get it.
Oddly, if there wasn't a way to get Zodiac Spear in Necrohol of Nabudis (and the only place to get it would be Henne Mines), I would be ok with that. Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't like punishing players for doing what they're supposed to do (= opening the treasure chests).
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There is no justifying the asinine process required to get the Zodiac Spear in Nabudis.
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I guess it depends on your tolerance levels. I'm more annoyed with being forced to do co-op stuff in FFTA and FFT:WotL in order to get all the good equipment in the game over a silly treasure chest pyramid scheme.
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They're randomised? I figured you had a percentage chance of getting an item or money. The money would be any number between x and y. There would be a 50% chance of getting item A or B if you were to get an item.
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according to the Strat Guide it is based on percentages and eash chest has a percentage to drop something from a list of items for each chest but it's not as simple as 50/50...
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