Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Crying Statue

  1. #1
    Eggstreme Wheelie Recognized Member Jiro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    26,942
    Articles
    65
    Blog Entries
    1
    Contributions
    • Former Cid's Knight
    • Former Editor
    • Notable contributions to former community wiki

    Default Crying Statue

    In reference to Seto. When you pass through the Cave of the Gi, you come to the ledge that Seto is on. I've always wondered whether he is actually alive in there. That whole scene is vague.

    For example, Bugenhagen says that Seto and Nanaki's mother told him to close the door to the cave. But didn't she die in the attack?

    And Seto "continues to protect them to this day". How does a petrified person do that, exactly?

    Thoughts on this scene in general?

    They see me rolling. They hating, patrolling.
    Trying to catch me riding dirty.


  2. #2

    Default

    Seto is dead and petrified and it is his spirit that continues to protect the valley. Remember those enemies were spirit-like creatures. Also Nanakis mother may have later died because of her wounds so she says it before she dies.

    I think that scene is very good, one of the best in FF games. Mainly because it has awesome music and Red XIII is one of my favorite characters and this is nice character development scene. You donīt see this great scenes in X or XII.

  3. #3
    Recognized Member Jessweeee♪'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    i'm on a sandbar help
    Posts
    19,882
    Blog Entries
    12

    FFXIV Character

    Sarangerel Qha (Twintania)
    Contributions
    • Former Cid's Knight
    • Former Site Staff

    Default

    I thought his tears were materia the first time I played and I tried to go get it

  4. #4

    Default

    Seto could have told Bugenhagen to close the door before he went through it, i.e. "Close this door behind me and don't open it."

    That was an amazing scene. VII really did have some very special moments that the PS2 generation seemed to lack.

  5. #5
    Newbie Administrator Loony BoB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2000
    Posts
    52,472
    Articles
    53
    Blog Entries
    19

    FFXIV Character

    Loony Bob (Twintania)

    Default

    I have to say that is the most moving scene I ever saw on a video game, actually.
    Bow before the mighty Javoo!

  6. #6
    CimminyCricket's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    4,911

    FFXIV Character

    Caedus Ulvein (Sargatanas)

    Default

    If the statue was crying, wouldn't that mean that he was still alive? Especially for it to have happened at a moment such as that with Red?


  7. #7
    Newbie Administrator Loony BoB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2000
    Posts
    52,472
    Articles
    53
    Blog Entries
    19

    FFXIV Character

    Loony Bob (Twintania)

    Default

    Personally am of the belief that petrification doesn't mean death, just being set in stone. When a player is petrified, they keep their health - they just are inable to move. If all three players are petrified it's game over despite players being fully alive, as none of them can do anything to help the other.

    Since Red XIII's species have a particularly long lifespan, I imagine he would, indeed, be still alive - thus making the scene all the more incredibly moving.

    EDIT: And I also personally believe Soft can only be used within minutes/hours of a petrification, hence they couldn't just cop out and free him using one of those.
    Bow before the mighty Javoo!

  8. #8
    Would sniff your fingers to be polite
    Nameleon.
    Quindiana Jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    These mountains are made of rainbows.
    Posts
    20,870
    Blog Entries
    6
    Contributions
    • Former Cid's Knight

    Default

    They should get some Supersoft from Dr. Tot.

  9. #9
    Very VIP person Tech Admin Rantz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    17,631
    Articles
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Quin View Post
    They should get some Supersoft from Dr. Tot.
    Truer words were never spoken.

  10. #10
    Do You Like Waffles? DarkBahamut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Look Behind You
    Posts
    852

    Default

    I don't think Seto is dead. I think he's just like FF9 in the Petrified Forest, Blank still lives.

    No time for "Dilly-Dallying" or "Shilly-Shallying."
    Props go to the one and only, Proxy, for the signature.

  11. #11

    Default

    I don't think his lifespan matters. I think spending years trapped in a petrified state without food, water, air, or sunlight would weaken Seto to such a state that if they used Supersoft to free him, he would soon die. Well, at least he'd be able to have a father-son moment with NanaRed.

    By the way, I've come to a conclusion of what species red most closely resembles for us Earthlings. The cougar can vary in coat color from "pale buff" to "reddish-brown", it's about the same size as Nanaki and has a face to match. The only thing that's missing is the odd hairdo... and the ability to speak. I don't think cougars even roar.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

  12. #12
    Very VIP person Tech Admin Rantz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    17,631
    Articles
    1

    Default

    They're not entirely unlike the now extinct Smilodon in anatomy, either. Although I'd say their fur colour is more in the Bay Cat direction.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •