Quote Originally Posted by Quin View Post
I agree with these guys. You wouldn't even know some monsters even dropped some of the stuff, it takes so long. Without a guide, the cool challenges and items are nigh unobtainable. In other FFs, some items were difficult to get, but you could at least figure out how to get them. In 12, you're basically forced to get a guide.
Oh god, I can't even imagine trying to find some of those obscure drops without some sort of help. You'd have to be a masochist.