Are you planning on playing?

[Ouch!]

Quin, your problem is that you're using Runescape as a basis of comparison for your opinions about MMORPGs.

[Jessweeee♪]

Every time I went out exploring I had a lot of fun trying to sneak around enemies and stuff like that and finding new places. Of course I would always change my mind about this when a goblin ate me and I had to start over

I'm torn!

[Aydin]

All the members of this forum should totally go on the same server and I'll make a Linkshell just for us! ...If they are still called Linkshells...

[Mirage]

true story, bro

[Quindiana Jones]

RS is ass compared to a lot of MMO's...

But in either case, with FFXI and from what I've played of FFXIV there is a lot of room to explore in all aspects.

Quin, your problem is that you're using Runescape as a basis of comparison for your opinions about MMORPGs.

I completely agree that RS is ass. Even compared to ass, it's ass. But the fact remains that I was able to move from town to town, running and ting my pants at the lower levels but still actually managing to get away from enemies.

No way is there a lot of room to explore in the actual walking around sense. Don't get me wrong, you can train pretty much every skill from your home town, but if you go outside and want to have a look around, within 3 minutes you're completely outclassed. As much as I love killing rabbits for 5 hours, then killing goblins for 10, I don't think these things should be necessary in order to get to the next area.

[Crossblades]

As much I would like to, I'm not gonna be able to play it. I quit playing FFXI last October so picking up another MMO to play is a no-no for me. Especially when I rarely have enough time to play. Maybe in the future I will, but for now, I'm staying away from it. However, just out of curiosity, I'll still be looking at future updates for this game.

[Ouch!]

RS is ass compared to a lot of MMO's...

But in either case, with FFXI and from what I've played of FFXIV there is a lot of room to explore in all aspects.

Quin, your problem is that you're using Runescape as a basis of comparison for your opinions about MMORPGs.

I completely agree that RS is ass. Even compared to ass, it's ass. But the fact remains that I was able to move from town to town, running and :bou::bou::bou::bou:ting my pants at the lower levels but still actually managing to get away from enemies.

No way is there a lot of room to explore in the actual walking around sense. Don't get me wrong, you can train pretty much every skill from your home town, but if you go outside and want to have a look around, within 3 minutes you're completely outclassed. As much as I love killing rabbits for 5 hours, then killing goblins for 10, I don't think these things should be necessary in order to get to the next area.

So your argument is more "GRIND DO NOT WANT" instead of "DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO" then?

[Del Murder]

I really hope there isn't a huge grind factor in this game, but I have my doubts. Even FFXIII had a huge grind factor and that's a single player game.

[Loony BoB]

Given that MMO's are pretty much always about the grind, I'm highly confident it will have a massive grind factor. I mean, how else would you do it?

[Del Murder]

You can have the grind but not make it as bad. In FFXI for example they have taken steps in the last couple years to give more variety and ease into gaining exp, but it's still pretty bad. Gaining gil in FFXIII also didn't have to be as bad. I'm just hoping for less grind. Camping in one spot for 4 hours fighting the same exact enemies the same exact way just to get 1 level is unnecessary and pointless.

[Quindiana Jones]

I completely agree that RS is ass. Even compared to ass, it's ass. But the fact remains that I was able to move from town to town, running and ting my pants at the lower levels but still actually managing to get away from enemies.

No way is there a lot of room to explore in the actual walking around sense. Don't get me wrong, you can train pretty much every skill from your home town, but if you go outside and want to have a look around, within 3 minutes you're completely outclassed. As much as I love killing rabbits for 5 hours, then killing goblins for 10, I don't think these things should be necessary in order to get to the next area.

So your argument is more "GRIND DO NOT WANT" instead of "DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO" then?[/QUOTE]

Not really. There's nothing wrong with a grind. I grind in pretty much every RPG game, and MMOs are no different. It's that you can't do anything until you've grinded. Grinding should be necessary if you want to get good at the game, get rich, fight the best bosses etc.. It shouldn't be necessary if you want to pop next door for a cup of tea with your mate. There's no reason that a person wouldn't be able to go from city A to city B for a fee and cut out the big dangerous journey. A train network or some such thing. You can understand the reason not to have something like trains in XI, but from what I've seen of XIV, it would be a completely viable option.

[Rostum]

I have to admit, the grind in FFXI is still daunting for me and I have 3 level 75's and pretty much every other job at level 40. I think I was only able to do most of that because life hadn't caught up to me - which it is now.

So I really hope that the grind isn't bad. At least not like Aion...

[Mirage]

oh yeah, and add me to that list

I've already got a group of dudes to play with though
so if they end up on a different server than you, sry all

[Tseng]

I've never seriously played any MMOs before, but so far, FFXIV looks interesting. I'm considering it and leaning towards 'yes'.

Im in the exact same boat. My internet has blown hard for longer than I can stand to tolerate so Ive never entertained the idea of playing an MMO. If people like it and it gets solid reviews post launch I might just trounce about in that massively consuming world....maybe

[Mercen-X]

I didn't pay to play XI. XIV will be no different.