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    Smile Is the male or female more of a creature of nature, are they equal or not?

    Who is more of a creature of nature males or females? Males act on natural instinct,just as females do, but sociologically speaking who is further way from their roots? Who is further away from their basic and honest animal nurture and instincts? Male or female?

    Can it be determined which one is more of a creature of nature, rather than acting on embedded behaviors, embedded ideas/ philosophies?

    Is the concept of man or woman further away from the simple nature of which they were brought up from, from the beginning of sex in race?


    Who's more in control and in touch with their honesty of nature, and who is more influenced by "invention"?

    Who is more of a slave of inventions and the superficial world that rests on our shoulders.

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    Gender is a social construction.


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    We’re all slave to our nature, although many don’t like to admit it. This very thread is because of your inhibitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clo View Post
    Gender is a social construction.
    but sex is natural, rite?

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    I like to believe that my "in ur kitchen makin ur sammiches" is very much instinctual, because it's about the desire to nurture, which is in the female instinct line. And you know what? I like it that way. And I want a mate who desires to protect me and provide for me and our future family <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
    but sex is natural, rite?
    Oh man, is it natural.


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    Not, I hear, the things that rubah gets up to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Clo View Post
    Gender is a social construction.
    but sex is natural, rite?
    Sex as the act of intercourse? Or sex as the biological disposition?


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    Ooooh a sociological debate! My favourite.

    The idea of women having a "Motherly" instinct is completely socially constructed; the way boys and girls are socialized (ie. blue for boy, pink for girl, soldier for boy, play kitchen for girl etc etc) is what leads to these stereotypes of "women should be in the kitchen" etc. So we don't do ourselves any favours and then we wonder why it's OUR job to cook the meal when, ironically, most of the top chefs are men.

    I don't know if that's at all relevant, but I feel clever.

    Quote Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~ View Post
    I like to believe that my "in ur kitchen makin ur sammiches" is very much instinctual, because it's about the desire to nurture, which is in the female instinct line. And you know what? I like it that way. And I want a mate who desires to protect me and provide for me and our future family <3
    This is completely (and stereotypically) socially constructed. Biologically, there is no "female instinct" or "desire to nurture". There's no reason why a woman can't be the breadwinner - why must the woman always take the expressive role?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeldy View Post
    Ooooh a sociological debate! My favourite.

    The idea of women having a "Motherly" instinct is completely socially constructed; the way boys and girls are socialized (ie. blue for boy, pink for girl, soldier for boy, play kitchen for girl etc etc) is what leads to these stereotypes of "women should be in the kitchen" etc. So we don't do ourselves any favours and then we wonder why it's OUR job to cook the meal when, ironically, most of the top chefs are men.

    I don't know if that's at all relevant, but I feel clever.

    Quote Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~ View Post
    I like to believe that my "in ur kitchen makin ur sammiches" is very much instinctual, because it's about the desire to nurture, which is in the female instinct line. And you know what? I like it that way. And I want a mate who desires to protect me and provide for me and our future family <3
    This is completely (and stereotypically) socially constructed. Biologically, there is no "female instinct" or "desire to nurture". There's no reason why a woman can't be the breadwinner - why must the woman always take the expressive role?
    because it's hardwired into your genes and that of most female mammals, but I guess that's just a "social construct" as well.

    even the toughest feminist CEO career-bitch will become a soft caring mommy when she gets a baby. Well most of them at least. Some just never care, in which case it just means they suck forever.
    This twenty-year-old boy was distinguished from childhood by strange qualities, a dreamer and an eccentric. A girl fell in love with him, and he went and sold her to a brothel...

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    Both genders have common and specific inherit instincts... I feel like taking a nap so I'll elaborate later... *snoozes*


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    Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Clo View Post
    Gender is a social construction.
    but sex is natural, rite?
    Sex is natural, sex is good. Not everybody does it, but everybody should.

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    Because Men are superior to women we are more rational and less guided by flighty emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clo View Post
    Gender is a social construction.
    Aye.

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