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    Your welcome. It was introduced in a cutscene at Quan's Dwelling that Vivi had fell off the cargo ship. I'm guessing Kuja was shipping him to Alexandria so Brahne can get a look at the prototype.

    Something I would like to know though is Garnet's adoptive father and more from about her real parents.

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    Yeah, I remember how Quan found him but that's about it.

    Garnet's parents wrote on that mural in Madain Sari which had her real name written on it. Not much is said about them which is disappointing as I was always really intrigued.

    Edit: But we'll leave this subject for another thread.
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    This thread raises a question. If Vivi knew he was going to stop why would he make more of himself? They're probably going to stop just as quickly as he did. He's just perpetuating a vicious circle. What a dumb kid, I'm angry now.

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    You mean like every other life form on the planet?

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    You have a point... BUT! if you were going to die, say, a day after being created would you be like "Let there be others like me so that they may be just as pointless!"?

    It kind of defeats the whole point of Vivi stopping if there are a bunch of clones running around with just as short a lifespan. I know it's a metaphor about life and death or some junk but it's supposed to be emotional, dammit! How can I be sad now, Pontus!?

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    Well, look at it this way. If he creates 10 clones and they each live a month, each of those has time to experience life, save the world and create 10 clones of their own, just like their father. The Vivi tribe would grow exponentially and each generation could save the world with 10 times the power of the last generation, and thus effectively ensure Vivi's immortality. It's genius!

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    I really need to play FFIX again, because I have no idea what any of you are talking about. I remember seeing Vivi at the end with a bunch of little Vivis who I assumed were his kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyk View Post
    (SPOILER)I know those were his "children". What I'm saying is I seem to recall also seeing him with them. Unless one of them is larger than the rest or something. I never had any impression that Vivi had died until it started coming up on this forum. Though the game does go into a lot of detail that their time limit is random and his had already exceeded expectation, so it makes sense if he's really not in the ending.
    I just noticed that part in your post. (SPOILER) In the game Mr. 288 states that he assumes (maybe not exact words) that black mages stop roughly a year after production. Kuja told us the prototype will last a little longer though. In Quan's Dwelling. Quan marks Vivi as being 9. Either Vivi was really 9 years old before he died or Quan assumed that he looked 9 years old and wrote it as such.

    I don't think I can believe that he's 9, that would mean that Kuja was plotting Gaia's assimilation for 9 years and that Brahne was evil/ becoming evil 9 years before the game's plot began.
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    I really need to play FFIX again, because I have no idea what any of you are talking about. I remember seeing Vivi at the end with a bunch of little Vivis who I assumed were his kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guardian XIII View Post
    You have a point... BUT! if you were going to die, say, a day after being created would you be like "Let there be others like me so that they may be just as pointless!"?

    It kind of defeats the whole point of Vivi stopping if there are a bunch of clones running around with just as short a lifespan. I know it's a metaphor about life and death or some junk but it's supposed to be emotional, dammit! How can I be sad now, Pontus!?
    I agree with you. I think that it seems almost cruel to bring a sentient lifeform into existence with such a short lifespan. There is hardly time for a being to experience the world and create memories worth cherishing in a little under a year. I got the impression that the Black Mages were unnatural creations and it seems odd to me that they would keep producing more or reproducing somehow after they have served their purpose. Is this supposed to be a joyful thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guardian XIII View Post
    You have a point... BUT! if you were going to die, say, a day after being created would you be like "Let there be others like me so that they may be just as pointless!"?

    It kind of defeats the whole point of Vivi stopping if there are a bunch of clones running around with just as short a lifespan. I know it's a metaphor about life and death or some junk but it's supposed to be emotional, dammit! How can I be sad now, Pontus!?
    I agree with you. I think that it seems almost cruel to bring a sentient lifeform into existence with such a short lifespan. There is hardly time for a being to experience the world and create memories worth cherishing in a little under a year. I got the impression that the Black Mages were unnatural creations and it seems odd to me that they would keep producing more or reproducing somehow after they have served their purpose. Is this supposed to be a joyful thing?
    Wait, what, is this even questionable? Vivi is proof that a short lifespan doesn't mean a life is not meaningful. Even though he was created, he had fun, adventure, emotions, friends etc. Pretty much the same as any race in the game, so I don't see why he shouldn't want to bring more life to the planet (like every other race).

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    Vivi learned about sex through some naughty books from Zidane and Quina happened to pass by...Vivi was horny and Quina was clueless so they...they....~~~~~~~~ccccchhhhuuuu~~~~~~

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    I made Vivi. I killed Vivi. I made his children out of clay and animated them with my love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christmas View Post
    Vivi learned about sex through some naughty books from Zidane and Quina happened to pass by...Vivi was horny and Quina was clueless so they...they....~~~~~~~~ccccchhhhuuuu~~~~~~
    somehow that is still cute.
    but wrong.
    VERY WRONG.

    we know vivi was at least 6 months old, whereas the black mages made after him only lasted about a month or two. Or less.
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    The other black mages life span were about year as stated by Mr.288. I think Vivi might've been a few years older than that from in game dialogue like when when Vivi had said to one of the Genomes that he looks about as old as him or Eiko and in Quan's Dwelling I think on the wall Quan wrote Vivi 9 years old, still too small to eat. I might have to go and check that last one though as I'm not sure about that and it's been a while.
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