Activity Levels, if you don't use it, you lose it.

[Citizen Bleys]

Once thing's for certain -- if it did come down to a ban, nobody outside of the staff -- could ever be allowed to know who did the actual deed. If one person took all of the flak, they'd probably get harassed by the general membership until they resigned and left.

[Raistlin]

I think you're underestimating EoFF's members. Bans are not unilateral decisions, and no one staffer is going to be harassed for an action that the whole group supported. Popular members have been banned before under controversial conditions (e.g., Spatvark banning HOORJ), and I don't recall any staff member catching that sort of flak, or anything remotely close -- even when EoFF was overall much more immature.

[Citizen Bleys]

no one staffer is going to be harassed for an action that the whole group supported.

O RLY?

[Raistlin]

Where in that thread was anyone harassed? xD I actually agreed with the staff, and was just using it as an excuse to make fun of Shlup. Although I did think there was a worthwhile debate there over at what point it's a disservice to EoFF to ban an otherwise active and worthwhile member and the general worth of clear-cut rules versus broader rules that allow for discretion, which I brought up slightly more seriously later (and brought up even more seriously in this competition, here and in the double posting thread). I'm not entirely sure I buy my own arguments from that thread, but I was playing a bit of devil's advocate as I thought about the removal of any auto bans.

The way you were talking about flak, you were acting like the members would never forgive the staffer. I just think that's completely unrealistic.

[Shorty]

Completely unrelated - I apparently missed that thread, but I am having a jolly time going back and reading it now.

[Citizen Bleys]

It doesn't have to be a nuclear meltdown to qualify as flak, just hostile comments.

[Goldenboko]

Wes was involved, a conversation about babies could've had hostile comments, not that I don't entirely agree.

[Raistlin]

It doesn't have to be a nuclear meltdown to qualify as flak, just hostile comments.

You of all people should appreciate that banter is not hostility. Are you going to get a restraining order out on me for calling you Plushiebunny?

... Wait, is that why I'm not allowed in Canada?

EDIT: More importantly to my original point, no one actually believed Shlup was the sole person to "blame" for any perceived wrong. Even though she almost always is.

[Citizen Bleys]

... Wait, is that why I'm not allowed in Canada?

The entire Westboro Baptist Church is banned from Canada.

[Raistlin]

What does that have to do with me? Are you calling me Fred Phelps?

Speaking of the WBC, they came to protest by my law school one year, and I counter-protested with a "God Hates Fraggles" sign. I got to listen to some little teenage Phelps girls singing a horrible "parody" of Ozzy's "Crazy Train."

And speaking of crazy trains, I think this thread has been fully derailed.

[Quindiana Jones]

At least there were no casualties, other than the time of those who read through this thread.