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    Meanwhile in this thread


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    Scary, indeed




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    Yes, yes I do.
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    Jinx you are absolutely smurfing insane. Never change.

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    Don't believe in any superstitions whether they be ghosts, banshees, gods, leprechauns (despite looking in the forests all the time when I was a kid).

    I don't understand the human compulsion to fill in blanks in knowledge with magic I really don't.

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    I don't believe in ghosts but I also don't not believe in ghosts. I just don't have an opinion one way or another.

    Sharky doesn't believe in ghosts.

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    I believe in Cuch's avatar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Scary, indeed

    You ruined the trout out of the no-makeup photo! Have some respect!

    was it really necessary to give me longer eyelashes as a ghost

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    sam says her grandma's house is haunted but i didn't notice anything when i was there overnight

    maybe i just keep the spirits away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmark View Post
    sam says her grandma's house is haunted but i didn't notice anything when i was there overnight

    maybe i just keep the spirits away
    EVERYONE IN OUR FAMILY SAYS IT'S HAUNTED AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS
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    So I think our apartment is possessed.

    Within 1 week, the light bulbs in the sink/linen closet part of our bathroom have all gone out, the lights in the bedroom have blown, the one in the kitchen, and last night the one that's out on the balcony.

    lulz... My Friend Pobz said it wasn't the apartment, just me. I must be a demon.

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    My momm thought my parents' house was haunted and she told the ghost he was dead and since then no issues.

    But she does take many chemicals to stop her having manic hallucination-like episodes.

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    Let’s imagine, for the sake of argument, a universe where ghosts exist. “Ghosts” being loosely defined as substanceless apparitions or things that cannot be seen or touched but can manipulate the world around them if they choose to some extent. Treat it as a thought experiment: if ghosts exist, what else must be true?

    We should start with a simple, yet fundamental, question: do ghosts have matter? If the answer is “yes,” then ghosts are tangible beings. Then why can’t we touch them? Perhaps their molecules are so far apart that our hands pass right through them, like with air molecules or water vapor. But in that case, like water vapor, a stiff breeze would send ghosts soaring. They would never be able to be still, as mere breath would cause them to fly in the other direction.

    So what if ghosts simply don’t have matter? Well then, they would not interact with the fundamental forces of the universe, including the electromagnetic field and, most significantly, gravity. Despite our perception of it, the Earth is rotating at a speed of roughly 1,000 miles per hour and hurtling through space around the sun at the same time (and the sun, in turn, is also hurtling through space relative to the other solar clusters in our galaxy, which is in turn hurtling through space relative to other galaxies, dragging us with it). A ghost would be around for only a fraction of a second before it sank through the Earth and was left in the dust, so to so speak. Depending on how many ghosts there are, there would be a constant stream of ghosts left in the Earth’s wake.

    I suppose you could say that ghosts are neither matter or non-matter, but some indeterminate and unexplainable third option. Or maybe they’re non-matter yet can hold themselves onto Earth by using some heretofore undiscovered and unidentified force. The more you “explain” ghosts, though, the more explanations are required that have no basis in reality. And then you run square into Occam’s Razor, a basic principle of logic that states, roughly, that the more assumptions required in a hypothesis, the more unreliable the hypothesis is. And ghosts require an overwhelming number of disproven, or at least unproven and baseless, assumptions to believe that it is even possible for them to exist in the first place. If ghosts exist, virtually everything we know about physics and chemistry is wrong. It is an astonishingly extraordinary claim, which should require extraordinary evidence.

    We have cameras and sensors detecting every possible type of energy, not only on Earth, but throughout the galaxy. We can distinguish from every other form of energy around us the miniscule amount of background radiation that remains from the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago, a tiny bit of energy that measures only slightly above absolute zero. And yet in all that time, not a single piece of remotely scientific evidence has been discovered to favor even the hypothetical possibility of ghosts’ existence.

    The only “evidence” in favor of ghosts, like evidence of alien invasions or Bigfoot or crab people, is purely anecdotal. Not that all of these people are lying; many people sincerely believe that they have had ghostly experiences. But psychology is a powerful thing. Our brains are so powerful that thought alone can make us sick (including many documented incidents on a large scale). And confirmation bias is a well-documented psychological effect where people who believe in something or expect to experience something will interpret reality around them to confirm to their underlying belief (whether that belief is born from desire or fear or any other motivation).

    So, you must ask yourself: for any individual “ghostly experience,” is it more likely to actually be ghosts, or any other possible explanation that has even the slightest basis in reality? Why are ghosts more likely than imagination, or carbon monoxide poisoning, or pipes rusting, or a trick of the light, or some error in vision, or hell, random delusions/hallucinations – or literally any of infinite possible explanations which, while not all very plausible, at least have the benefit of being definitively possible? Why isn’t it more likely that someone who experiences ghosts has had a random stalker tailing them throughout their entire life just to smurf with them than it is that unperceived and unperceivable ghosts was actually the cause? Do you think people would be so quick to leap to “ghosts” as an explanation for unexplained phenomenon if they weren’t culturally exposed to the belief in the first place?

    (SPOILER)No, I don’t believe in ghosts.

    EDIT: Though I will say that growing up I desperately wanted to believe in ghosts, because I thought ghosts and stories about haunted places were so damn cool. Even into my teens I fought against the lack of evidence with desire, and part of me hoped with every haunted house I visited or ghost tour I was on that I would experience something for myself, or at least find the slightest reason to believe that ghosts were even possible. Alas.
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    lmao no.


    guys it is 2013 and we're allowed to be smart now

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    While it was an experimental album, I still enjoyed Ghosts I-IV. To the average listener, it seems like it's just a bunch of weird audio samples for the sake of being weird. However, for a long time Nine Inch Nails fan, it's the audio equivalent of watching someone take apart an automobile that you really love just to see how it works, yet still being able to drive it.

    Plus, Trent and Atticus were still able to convey a wide array of emotions though this enormous 36 track instrumental album, which really impressed me.

    8/10

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