Okay, finally read through the last of the posts.

I think it's great to start planning now. I would guess that those closer to the city can commit at a later date. I mean, I can say that there is every chance I'll probably go but I have no idea what I'll be doing that far ahead. I hate making plans for the distant future, it's not something I'm good at. But this is exactly what is needed for a number of people who won't be able to go without years of saving, so I say to this entire idea. I hope some people benefit from the early notice.

Some people won't be able to make it, and I don't think we should pile pressure on them. The worst thing you can do is pressure people to go - the best meetups are always the ones where people were keen from the get-go, and the people most likely to make it were also those most keen from the get-go (or those with great financial situations). Personally, I think those North Americans that can't afford to make the journey across the pond should have their own meetup at the same time somewhere stateside. Why not, right!?

For the city, I would naturally prefer Edinburgh because I know that it's nice in June and has bucketloads of decently price accommodation (and the food prices etc. aren't as bad as London) and is a pretty city from top to bottom... however I can understand if people want to go somewhere different. Personally, whenever a meetup has been announced in Birmingham or Manchester, I've been put off going because I find those two cities to be very dull when it comes to tourism value, and with people making international journies I think we should make it either Edinburgh, York, St. Davids or (eh) London. These are all places with good tourism value that I have really enjoyed visiting.

Don't worry about the Ciddies part of this until it's actually happening. Try not to plan small details as the big details will swing things a lot. I mean, I'm going to assume that I'll probably want to have Award Guy host the Ciddies for such an event as this, but having to coincidentally walk out of the room every time he appears is going to be a bitch. Seriously though I imagine I'll plan such a thing out after the Ciddies before it, when I know who is going, where it is, etc. There's no rush on that end (although I will point out it will be far easier to host the Ciddies in my home city).

When it comes to hiring venues, I'd suggest we don't plan this side of things for the same reasons as the above. In fact, even more so. I agree with whoever it was that mentioned "just gathering in someone's back yard and hiring takeaway" because hiring a venue will cost an arm and a leg. Putting it into perspective, the hiring of the Scotsman cost me something like £4,800 and that's not including all the extras we spent on other things (the wedding was in excess of £10,000). I know you can get cheaper places - considerably cheaper, of course - but I think the best and easiest way to do this would be to make it far more informal.

Speaking of money, I doubt I'll be able to donate any significant amount. I've spent so much money on EoFF and the wedding and the honeymoon... Danielle won't tolerate me spending much more than I do on the site as it is. We want to do a lot of things in our lives together, particularly over the next few years when we can finally start spending money on ourselves, that I couldn't commit any kind of investment. However, I'm sure come the time of the actual event I will have some extra money put aside for meals and drinks above and beyond that which I personally will be consuming. 'tis in my nature, as many of you know.

If Drift isn't going, I don't think I can make it. After meeting him, I have pretty much placed Drift as one of the most amazing people you could ever have at a meetup. The guy is freaking awesome and acts like a host even in places where he is not a host.

Definitely try to get some massive apartment with multiple rooms like we did in Edinburgh. That place was a home away from home, and it was so much fun being there.

Overall I think this is a fantastic idea and I hope it works out really well. Again, don't plan too much as you might end up getting really disappointed with how things turn out. People will cancel, new people will want to take their places, the numbers won't add up somehow, the flight costs and accommodation costs will change, life circumstances will force people to reconsider what can happen... all we need to do at this point is ensure that people have a fair idea of where they are going (UK is good enough at the moment) and that those at a far distance can start saving.

I moved this thread into General Chat because it's a pretty big thing.