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  • Brazil

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  • Chile

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  • Colombia

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  • Cote D'Ivoire

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Thread: 2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil

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    The difference between Suarez and the others is exactly what Jess said - it's the third time. There's also the fact that everything he does, he denies like a coward. Did De Jong or Zidane deny what they did? No, they said stuff like "he insulted my sister, and I honour her, so I floored the smurfer." Luis is all "waaahhhhh, I would never bite someone, not once, not twice, not three times, this is all a big misunderstanding, I'm also not racist, my teammates are black and I never bit them once I didn't." At least when he handballed he admitted it.

    Overall the guy is just a dick cheat player. At least when Ronaldo dived, whined or moaned United players were capable of saying he should man up and get on with things. Liverpool are too precious about their little schnookums. I'm not sure if it's sort of like a mum and dad wanting to protect their wee baby by covering him in cotton balls, or if it's sort of like a mum and dad not saying anything because they live in fear that he will eat them for doing so.

    Either nothing will happen or Suarez will get a suspension for like 6-10 games sometime after the World Cup. Nobody in the big top has the guts to get rid of a PL player for years in this day and age.
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    I don't know what Liverpool or Manchester United have to do with it it given that he was playing for Uruguay. Still, if you want to bring Premiership teams into it then okay I'm happy to score cheap points off you... just like Liverpool did at Old Trafford lmao. Liverpool fans are, on the whole, not defending him. Most are equally outraged and are demanding the club sell him - indeed, look at what the other Liverpool fan in this thread has said about it. The club aren't defending him. The club roundly condemned him and issued statement after statement after he did it to Ivanovic and I suspect you'll see more to follow in the wake of this incident. And I'm not defending him - I think it was stupid. Funny, but stupid.

    My angle in all this is not "Poor little Luis", it's that I find the hysteria about it to be amusing. The pure hypocrisy of people getting their panties in a bunch over such a minor thing when infinitely worse and more violent acts occur in every game is an endless source of entertainment to me. The idiot pundits and ex-pros shrieking about it and the people parroting their views as though one rich fella biting another rich fella is somehow an affront to humanity all deserve mockery, especially because they all secretly love it because it gives them something to talk about.

    Van Persie, an inferior player to Suarez who plays for the 7th best team in England (couldn't resist ), committed a horrible two footed scissor tackle on Mile Jedinak which was both deliberate and very nearly broke his leg and could've ended his career. Luis Suarez nibbled on a man's shoulder for two seconds and did not even break the skin. You tell me which one you'd rather be on the receiving end of and then try to justify all the moral outrage. Toot toot all aboard the hypocrisy train!

    Football is just a silly game. We watch it for fun. A player biting another player is not a moral travesty; it's smurfing brilliant. If you get up in arms about it I will laugh and take the piss, just like I did with Zidane and De Jong. And that was why I mentioned those incidents, though you didn't seen to grasp it. As ever, I turn to the excellent F365 to explain it better than I can http://www.football365.com/john-nich...o-See-Actually (it's about the Pardew headbutt but it applies)

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    I don't think you of all people is in any position to judge a man who bites another man. Surprised you're not in some sort of club with Suarez actually xD

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    Nah man, I don't buy the 'but it's entertainment!!!!1' line, football is entertaining enough as it is. You just can't do stuff like that on a football field. It's on a whole different level to just throwing elbows around. What if, instead of biting Chiellini, he just (completely unprovoked) gave him a right hook to floor him as the cross came over? Even that is not on the same level as smurfing taking a chomp out of him! Mike Tyson did that and got his boxing licence rescinded amid humungous uproar, all in a sport where the whole idea is to cause enough physical damage to the opponent that he gets knocked unconscious. Biting 3 different players would even get you a life ban on a rugby field.

    Think about Chiellini. He was going out there expecting to play football, not get bitten on the shoulder by some Uruguayan twat. And I don't like the Italian team. Suarez isn't even that great a player. I think Thierry Henry was better, and maybe Denis Bergkamp. There will be many more, superior players who will replace him, and more importantly do it without being a diving, playacting, handballing, biting, walking red card in the process. Not a great loss to football.

    Re Zidane headbutt: Does nobody remember the world of football (especially the French) going absolutely nuclear with rage in the immediate aftermath of what he did? The back pages were just a collection of synonyms for 'disgrace'. It wasn't until it came out how he was provoked that people started to sympathise with him (and many still don't). Luis just up and bit the guy(s) out of nowhere, for no reason whatsoever.


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    Comparing it to Mike Tyson is a false analogy. Mike Tyson bit part of a man's ear off; Luis Suarez left a light indentation on a man's shoulder. You cannot compare

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    Likewise you cannot compare a right hook to the face or an elbow to the back of the head to some mild teeth indentations. Of course a right hook is worse than that and I don't understand why you think it isn't. What if, though? He could've knocked him out and given him a concussion, ending his game if not his World Cup, a far worse fate than the one he suffered.

    Chiellini didn't expect to get bitten. Muslera didn't expect an elbow to the back of the head. Arevalo didn't expect Marchisio to stamp on his knee. All three are probably not surprised at taking a hit on a football field. It's a contact sport. You expect to have people make contact with you. Yeah you can say you expect a stomp more than a bite but so what? If he'd torn his throat out with his oversized teeth then fair enough, but he really didn't. As mentioned above in regards to a punch, only one has the potential to cause serious injury and end someone's World Cup and I bet you 99 out of 100 footballers would rather take a Suarez nibble than a Marchisio stomp. Sucks for Chiellini though, yeah, and if justice is done Suarez should get a one match ban for a red card offence the same as Marchisio did. And then that's it. Everyone moves on, same as with any other incident.

    I think you misunderstand me on Zidane. I know the world blew up after that. My point was that I laughed at the hysteria then and I'll laugh at it now.

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    But he's not being punished because the bite might have caused serious injury, he's being punished because a bite is so far removed from anything you'd expect or allow on a football field, not to mention in incredible disdain for the concept of sportsmanship, that it's unreal. I still think it's worse than a right hook. A punch is a fairly common act of aggression, that while rare in football (and sport in general), is not unheard of. Biting someone though, is just...unhinged. It's animal-like. There's a line in the sand, and Suarez crossed it (three times).


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    If we're applying morals and motivations to it, you tell me which is worse - the deliberately calculated spiteful act or the uncontrolled wild act of someone who is, as you say, unhinged?

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    I think the bite was deliberately calculated.


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    After what happened last time nobody would do that deliberately, it simply isn't worth the ensuing troutstorm. Especially when he is apparently angling for a move to Spain - he's probably scuppered that given how brand-focused Real Madrid and Barcelona are. Their sponsors would not take kindly to it either.

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    Maybe he has to do it to keep his king size chompers from overgrowing and potentially causing further serious issues with his face? Like a rat. I don't think it's fair to immediately burn the witch, when all he really needs is some cuttlefish and a scratching post.

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    I can only imagine that Suarez is going to receive a stiff penalty for the biting incident, if only because it is on the world stage, everyone has seen/read about it, and now FIFA has a reputation to consider. FIFA can't be seen to be complacent or lenient towards a repeat offender, lest more hurlings of 'shameful' are to be doled out.

    It's a different kettle of fish to a biting incident on just the English league.


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