Yeah... none of those excuses holds up to legitimate critical thinking. The only excuse, and not even a viable excuse, is that its eye candy. And the fact that some women may enjoy it is merely a coincidence. It's eye candy for men. Just like the rest of the entertainment industry. And if we could rant and rave and change their tune, we probably would. But we don't care about make-up or clothes. A lot of us don't even care about television or movies. What we do care about is video games. And if we can make enough noise to FIX our favorite past time, we most certainly will. And are attempting it at least. It's not like its just on this forum. Discussions like this are happening all over the internet, about almost every game that comes out these days. Developers are under a lot of scrutiny to open their eyes and their minds and get over their unconscious sexualization in portrayals of women. Hell, even outside of that, they're under a lot of pressure to make more than just back seat characters in general. Characters that pass the bechdel test are still important, and still kinda rare sometimes