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    Huh. I never really thought about Kashiwagi that way. Now I feel bad for finding her funny before, because you're right

    Anyway, you wouldn't BELIEVE the amount of fighting on the internet there is about where Kanji is gay or whether Naoto is trans. It doesn't help matters that there is no official confirmation on either.

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    I think Kanji is bisexual from one I've seen. Sexuality is a wide spectrum and someone can very easily fall in between rather than being completely one way or completely the other. I've wondered that about Naoto but I figured it was not the case because it came across to me like it was less about being the wrong gender as in how she feels mentally and inside, and more about being the wrong gender because of professional reasons. But who knows!

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    Well, IMO Kanji isn't gay. He might be bi, like you said, or anywhere else on the spectrum, but I think his shadow and insecurities don't actually stem from him questioning his sexuality, but rather traditional models of masculinity (which is something I totally relate to, which is part of the reason why Kanji is my favorite). I think his sexuality is moot and that he's just a kid confused about gender roles.

    And yeah, I'm pretty sure Naoto is cis (after beating her shadow she does seem to embrace the fact that deep down she's a woman) - it's all about society's expectations to women and men on a professional field.

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    in a way, naoto and kanji are two sides of the same coin.
    everything is wrapped in gray
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    in a way, naoto and kanji are two sides of the same coin.
    You mean with regards to societal gender norms?

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    Yes. Naoto feels like her life as a professional detective would have been easier if she wasn't a woman (and that might be been an accurate assessment, although it might also have a bit to do with the fact that she is like 16). Kanji feels that his interest for the family business clashes with him being a guy.

    I always felt that they were introduced around the same time for a reason. They show an interest for each others (well, kanji does anyway) before even joining the investigation team.
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    I think it's a theme for all of the characters, really - dealing with societal expectations. It's just that Kanji and Naoto deal with those regarding gender and sexuality.

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    The only Persona games I've played is Persona 1+2. Both were pretty interesting but I haven't dedicated too much time to finishing them. Persona 1 was excruciating and Persona 2 had the highest damn random encounter rate I've seen since Fallout 2, FFII, and FFV. But yeah I like them. One thing that was interesting about Persona 2 was summoning new Personas. Though I saw it as a bit complex at time. But luckily they improved the negotiation system from Persona 1 and made it far better.

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    (SPOILER)Nanako's dungeon music is the best music in the entire game.

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    I am loving all of the costumes

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    I honestly kinda hated them

    The only ones I used were the Gekkoukan uniforms.

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    Chie pumpkin is the best thing I don't even know what to say to you

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    Hm, seems I forgot about this thread after getting lost in Wonderland for the while... This is merely the two scents of an outside observer, but I agree with Pumpkin that Kashiwagi is rather creepy. P4 has a disturbing sense of humor sometimes.

    Getting back into PQ was easier than I thought, I even remembered which 1st labyrinth sub-personas learned the elemental resistance skills. Despite everything that Risky Mode can throw at me I'm happy to say the Queen of Hearts is dead; along with several dozen of her adorable evil minions... She was a screamer in the end. Honestly the entire first Labyrinth feels like a case of being so weird it's good. Though I wish that PQ didn't have to go down the path of simplifying some character's personalities to the point of acting like they'd lost about one-third of their IQ.

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