Yeah, exactly. As soon as England come up against anyone halfway decent they'll get battered, same as it ever was. We're used to it and it's fine, but yesterday is a rare game worth celebrating.

As Bubba said, Welsh players were trash talking non stop before the game, Gareth Bale notably saying England had less passion and that no England player would get into the Welsh team. I'm fine with that, it's much more interesting than the usual generic boring footballer quotes. But then when you do that, you forfeit your underdogs tag and if all you do is stick ten men behind the ball then you don't deserve any of the "oh they're so brave" platitudes.

Especially when Albania (a worse team than Wales) offered much more of a threat against France (a better team than England) the day before.