EoFF's Ultimate Character Tournament Round 1 - Auron vs Red XIII (CLOSED)

[Wolf Kanno]

I like Quina yes, but if Quina was up against Freya, Vivi, or Steiner, I'm kicking it to the curb. Red XIII was just boring to me and ultimately doesn't really do much for the plot except be raised by a more important character.

Vivi and Steiner I'll give you, but Freya? Bloody hell son. Red XIII is more important to VII's plot than Freya is to IX's and infinitely less boring. Fight me.

...although there wouldn't be much point seeing as how she only got one nomination. There's a reason Red XIII's in this tournament and she isn't!

Freya had a more interesting story and FF is on short supply of badass female characters. She also Riverdances!

Red XIII had a boring predictable plot line and ultimately comes across as an annoying know-it-all kid who basically has reality give him a wake up call beat down. My favorite thing about him was kicking the ball into him at Costa del Sol.

Freya also has the better character theme.

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[Fynn]

Red XIII's novelty basically comes down to

[Lyndis Highwind]

I didn't realize people disliked Red XIII so much! I'm not crazy about him or anything, and I agree he is a rather weak character, but he was cool for the parts of the story that he was in.

[Fynn]

Nah I don't hate him. I just think he really isn't that interesting and my recent replay only confirmed how insufferable he can get. Also, Freya is a better character by a mile, so seeing such slander just made it clear I had to speak up because damn, that's just crazy talk!

[Psychotic]

Freya had a more interesting story and FF is on short supply of badass female characters. She also Riverdances!

Red XIII had a boring predictable plot line and ultimately comes across as an annoying know-it-all kid who basically has reality give him a wake up call beat down. My favorite thing about him was kicking the ball into him at Costa del Sol.

Freya also has the better character theme.

Freya isn't even in the top 3 female badasses in her game (Beatrix, Lani and even god damn Ruby all had more personality) let alone the series!

Red XIII is not a know-it-all in the slightest! He shows a lot of vulnerability and fear of the unknown (e.g. "I have a tattoo too, will I go mad?" Paraphrased) and I have no idea how you missed that. He's a likeable and down-to-earth character who adds some much needed chill to counterbalance the likes of Barret. In Cosmo Canyon he shows a totally different side unlike beep boop emotionless Freya and the emotional payoff at the end is superb.

Red XIII's main arc ties nicely into FFVII's core theme of self identity. His side arcs (fear of being controlled by Hojo/Sephiroth and death of Bugenhagen aka the planet) also do and keep him relevant throughout the game.

All of this is why Red XIII is objectively one of the best FF characters in history as recognised by his place in this tournament. And Freya got one vote.

[Fynn]

You just leaped off into the deep end with Lani

[Bubba]

Great. Two of my favourite characters head-to-head.

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART SHAUNA

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[Psychotic]

Great. Two of my favourite characters head-to-head.

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART SHAUNA

This

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Exactly! This is why I've had to resort to bashing Freya, because I think Auron is excellent and I can't bring myself to say a bad word against him. Again, while I voted for Red XIII I'm perfectly fine with Auron going through.

[maybee]

/slams the Nanaki/ Red XIII button

[fat_moogle]

Red XIII! He's all like TAKE THAT HOJO YOU BASTARD. Whereas Auron is like SIN IS JECHT. Way to ruin a potential plot twist so early in the game, Auron.

[Karifean]

Auron of course. Dude's one of the few FF characters I really do care about.

[Fynn]

he loves his grandpa and thinks about him at sleepy times

WEAK

[Formalhaut]

Auron's a badass. Red XIII is a badass with vulnerabilities, a moving (though granted, fairly straightforward) local storyline and he helps form a needed logical foundation when characters start getting loopy. And I personally find Cosmo Canyon one of my favourite sections of Disc 1, although I know a surprising number of people don't very much care for any of it.

Either deserve to win this, but I don't think Red XIII is a novelty character. If anything Cait Sith is your novelty character although even it gains a semblence of depth in the latter stages of the game.

[Lyndis Highwind]

Wow, another tie! C'mon Auron!

[Shauna]

I withdrew my own vote that I had placed to UP THE ANTE - our winner is Red XIII!