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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLadyNyara View Post
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    Do you really believe that this story present both sides to this problem?
    Of course not. The video, however, does.

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    And what the hell was the guy doing screaming at the top of his lungs?
    He was being a jerk, so that justifies torture? I'm assuming you're refering to before they started pumping electricity into him. After that point, it was likely due to pain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye
    This whole thing is ridiculous; the cops were strict with their authority. They asked repeatedly for the guy to stand up, and the guy refused. The guy was hysterical.
    At risk of pointing out the obvious, the guy had just been tasered! Tasering can render a person incapable of standing for up to 15 minutes. I'd be pretty damn hysterical in that situation myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye
    It's nice to not notice how this whole thing could have been avoided; if the guy had his ID, everything would have been fine. Had he cooperated in the first place, things wouldn't have been so drastic.
    He was leaving when this [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] started. As in-not staying. As in-doing what they told him to do. He also screamed "I'll leave" repeatedly as they were shocking him.
    I am not saying that the cops had absolutley no fault into them. Their tactics went over the line. Wht I'm saying is that the cops however get to share the blame with this guy. The guy was crazy, and it's that simple. I wouldn't tasered him two or three times, but they did.

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    Camera phones and now ones that film video with sound are so common. There are several signs that this was a camera phone in the video, one the video on you tube was shot at varying heights but when in the foyer of the library the camera was at hip height, just like the one held by a girl who stepped in front of the camera blocking the shot.

    Infact for me to upgrade my camera phone I would have to get a video camera phone, and my phone is technically speaking outdated after 2 years.

    Hawkeye, reading the student eye witnesses account of what happened and my own count of shocks recieved they shocked him about 5 times (give or take 1 either side.) THAT is undoubtedly brutality.

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    Oh man all these points of view are making my head hurt. Let's just say that the kid needs psycho help and the cops need to be fired.

    And all of them need a knuckle sandwich.

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    I tell you what, Jiggy. You can go and punch psycho-cops and get your arse tazered off you, and I'll watch.

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    Did I say that? No, I did not. It was a comment on the general culture of the state. I qualified it because I can't speak for the rest of the world. Besides, I thought you didn't care about this.
    I don't care, but since you people do, I might as well have fun at your expense. And I just supported the cops to be an asshole. I could care less either way. Even though it was hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genji View Post
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    I just checked this out: relating to my first comment, when I said "I'm not sure if we even have or need University security in Canada," I looked it up and it turns out we don't have any university security in Canada. If there is a problem local police show up on the scene, but there are no in-school police, and if there were, I doubt that ID would be a problem.

    Recently, however, there was a shooting in Montreal, and now people are saying we might get University security. Still, I doubt something like this would happen as a result.

    Another thing occured to me. This is a long shot, but what if this was all staged as shock treatment so that more people start carrying around their ID? I can't see how this could be good publicity for security, but maybe they weren't counting on this blowing up so much, and they just wanted to make more people make sure to have their ID.

    A pretty wierd idea, I know. It's probably completely unlikely, but I thought it might add another dynamic to the topic.
    And the fact that the camera-man magically has a camera at this wonderful moment. How convenient.
    Even mobile phones that cost $50 has the ability to record videos these days. The more expensive phones have cameras that rival my 5 year old digital camera.

    And meh, I dunno. The guy was acting like an idiot, but tazing isn't meant to be for punishing people, it is to get them under control. Two policemen versus a student doesn't seem like the biggest of problems, and definitely not if said student is lying on the floor. The danger of a riot would have been far smaller if they hadn't used the tazer repeatedly too.
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