Pretty much, yeah.
Well, not entirely. You just have to discuss more about the attempts at copying the elements commonly found in 'popular in america' japanese cartoons, which IS a valid topic, and technically what the thread was about to begin with.
Yes. The word 'anime' is derived from the English word 'animation' however it is a term that the Japanese use to describe their animation. Americans commonly use the word cartoons and therefore Bugs Bunny and the other Looney Toons are cartoons as they've been called for the past 76 years.Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
Anime is short for Animeshon. Which is from the english word Animation.
"Japanimation," then.
You read my post and completely ignored it. THE JAPANESE REFER TO AMERICAN CARTOONS BY THE SAME WORD THEY REFER TO THEIR OWN. THEY ALSO MAKE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN 'ANIME' AND 'ANIMATION'.
And sure, Rukishi, Japanimation is fine, though it would probably be easiest to just use 'Blank' Animation, where 'Blank' is country of origin.
I didn't ignore your post as I agreed with the point you made in it saying how anime is derived from the word animation. And I don't need caps to understand that you basically proved my point. Which is that Japanese=anime and American=cartoons. The Japanese refer to American cartoons as anime, because that is what they call animation there. Americans do not call Japanese animation cartoons here, because most believe that it is a different form of animation all together. Some Japanese and American animation is similar and some isn't.
Afghanistanimation.
Don't let the great Satan tempt you with the Western Culture. You must remain true to the Taliban Warlords!
Now I feel disgusting and sticky inside for liking Teen Titans.
I see the valid point though. A lot of it seems like a cash-in on what will make them money, what with flaunting the sweatdrops and common other common elements. Not to mention networks butcher most anime (OMFGIMEANTJAPANIMATION) and make it aimed at kids in America, and now American-made cartoons aimed at younger audiences is now doing even more damage to the image. Why America thinks animation = children (for the majority anyway) is beyond me. But that's kind of diving into something else.
Anywho, yeah down with the man and all that.
I dont mind americans dubbing over anime.
but if they made it themselves it wouldnt be anime (french/japanese cult animation) it would be.... Amerine *shrugs*
Except it doesn't prove your point, or at least not what I was responding too. What I was responding to was
'I'll give you that. But, the only thing that defines something as anime is that it comes from Japan.'
Which is simply not the case. Now, for Americans, it is a commonly held assumption that the words have a different meaning, but given that the word is used where it originated to mean animation of any country, and is a derivation of 'animation', period, it's an incorrect one.
Loanwords do not change definitions simply because someone does not understand them.
I never said anime had a different meaning. Anime and cartoons are the same thing; they just come from different countries.Which is simply not the case. Now, for Americans, it is a commonly held assumption that the words have a different meaning, but given that the word is used where it originated to mean animation of any country, and is a derivation of 'animation', period, it's an incorrect one.
But we all agree there's a difference in styles between Japanese and American, right right?
I hate that word. >_<
Yes. For the most part there is some what of a difference in style. That's not saying much, because almost everything America tries to do Japan always tries to top us and vice versa.
The difference in style between japanese and american animation is miniscule compared to the difference in style between american animation and american animation or japanese animation and japanese animation.
I look at Jojo's bizarre adventure and I see more in common with the X-men than I do with Flame of Recca. I look at Lodoss and see more in common with the dungeons and dragons cartoon (Which is amusing, as Lodoss is itself a converted D&D campaign) than I do with Slayers.
Attempting to shoehorn american or japanese animation or comic books into an easily defined niche is an amazing disservice to both sides, but especially to the american independent comic artists and authors out there, who really try and find a unique or realistic- or both- style.
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