The Espers

[Dynast-Kid]

We all know that this installment of Final Fantasy doesn't use the traditional summons,but has spawned its own.I loved that Square decided not to use the traditional summons because it's nice to see new summons.Don't get me wrong,I love the series staples like Bahmut,Shiva etc.It's just nice to see new summons.

But from what I understand,some FF fans don't think like me.They hate the new summons(Espers are what they're called in this game)and want back Bahamut,Shiva etc.

I was just wondering:What do you guys think?

Ifrit,our usual fire summon...


...Compared to Belias,the Esper of fire.


Ramuh,the old guy with a knack for lightining...


...Compared to Adrammelech,a lizard with a shocking personality.


Shiva,the original ice queen...


...Compared to Mateus,a frosty mermaid.


Alexander,a robot we've grown to love...


...Compared to Ultima,an angel.(And my personal favorite Esper)


DISCUSS.

[Madame Adequate]

They're all cool, IMO. And honestly, I anticipate the new ones will be incorporated as standard summons in later FFs.

It was fun to see they're being called Espers again.

[abrojtm]

It hasn't really spawned its own, it borrows summons from FFT, FFTA, and some other random cameos (ExDeath).

I don't mind the new ones, but I'd prefer the others, personally.

[Dynast-Kid]

It hasn't really spawned its own, it borrows summons from FFT, FFTA, and some other random cameos (ExDeath).

I don't mind the new ones, but I'd prefer the others, personally.

Yeah I know,

Chaos is from FFI

Ultima is from FFT

Zeromus is from FFIV etc.

I just forgot to add that in.

[Ouch!]

I think they certainly look cooler, but I don't expect they'll make a return unless a later title takes place in another Ivalice.

[feona17]

I think they're awesome, and personally I don't think of it as any different. That Mateus, who I'd like to think is another version of Shiva smurfing rocks.

[Jessweeee♪]

I want both

[Vivisteiner]

They look awesome, but they are supposed to be pretty useless in battle.

[Dynast-Kid]

They look awesome, but they are supposed to be pretty useless in battle.

What do you mean?...

[feona17]

Yeah I heard that there are better strategies in battle. Sort of like when you have a big party and you have a character that you don't really use because the other characters are more effective.

[Aria28]

Yeah I heard that there are better strategies in battle. Sort of like when you have a big party and you have a character that you don't really use because the other characters are more effective.

Yes, but that's not really different from other FF, honestly. Can someone tell me of an FF they couldn't have beaten without summons? They only become really, really useful in the dark aeons' quest in FF X when you're against a dark aeon that's about to use an overdrive that may hit your whole party otherwise. And that's about the only time I can think about

[No.78]

I saw Fran use a move that looked distinctly like diamond dust in a trailer once. So maybe the old summons live on within the characters?

[Vivisteiner]

Apparently, most of the time, summoning them is a waste of a whole mp bar, as they do too little damage for the mp used. Unlike in other FFs. The same thing has been said of mist knacks.

[Auragaea]

Yeah I heard that there are better strategies in battle. Sort of like when you have a big party and you have a character that you don't really use because the other characters are more effective.

Yes, but that's not really different from other FF, honestly. Can someone tell me of an FF they couldn't have beaten without summons? They only become really, really useful in the dark aeons' quest in FF X when you're against a dark aeon that's about to use an overdrive that may hit your whole party otherwise. And that's about the only time I can think about

Even though FFVIII could've been defeated without GFs, it was a really hard task.

I saw Fran use a move that looked distinctly like diamond dust in a trailer once. So maybe the old summons live on within the characters?

That's one of Fran's Mist Quickenings, and it isn't ice elemental. Although, it really resembles Shiva's Diamond Dust in FFX...

[Tanwen Strife]

I think it's time they gave the summons a revamp. I mean, fair enough having the same names so you know which summon is which, but they always look the same and do the same thing. It's nice to have something new.