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    [QUOTE=Sir Bahamut;1874046]
    This does not answer the question of how was I ignoring the Succession of Witches. The Fated Children defeated the preceeding Succession of Witches as they travelled through Time Compression, aiding Ultimecia in to be given each of their power and preceeding that, it was with the help of Rinoa and Ellone, that she was able to possess all Sorceresses preceeding Adel. I'm not ignoring the Succession, the succession raises this possibility.
    The point is that there clearly existed sorceress between Rinoa and Ultimecia. These are the sorceress we fight when heading to Ultimecia's time. The fact that they are killed by the party does NOT in any way change the fact that they exist on the line of time in FF8. They were not eliminated from existence, and so after the game ends, they will all rise to power succesively, and all be killed by Squall and co in turn and order.
    Clearly you say? Then who is the Successor? No one? Hmm...

    So by saying Rinoa is the last in the succession before Ultimecia, you are ignoring all those sorceress we see, answering your question.
    Wait for it... Wait for it... Wait for it... Wait for it...

    Really? And you can prove this? That there is a successor to Sorceress Rinoa? When clearly the Succession that the Fated Children were slaying were, if you were actually reading my previous statement, the Witches preceeding Adel. The ones that Ultimecia was gathering through Time Compression, the one that she needed Ellone and Rinoa's help in reaching... That's right, the past, not from the future. Which leaves... Rinoa as the only Sorceress left. Whether she is to succeeded or not is not evident leaving it in the hands of Fate. It's kinda scary for you/us to think that their Happy Ending could be as limited by time and fate as it was for Cid and Edea, huh? The game has a lot of strange reflections of history repeating itself... Doomsday is just around the corner, let's enjoy the time we have Squall and Rinoa...

    I'm saying... All things are possible.
    [quote]I find it odd that you have spent pages debating when all you wanted to point out could be said in this tiny sentence. Because yes, "all things are possible", but this is not relevant! A rational debate cannot be based on this premise, because it means we must give a fair trial to theories such as "Squall is an evolved Shumi", "Irvine is Edea" or any other number of absurd notions.

    The premise "all things are possible" works fine if you're writing a fanfic, but in a logical debate, it's worthless and cannot even be seriously considered for a second.
    When I played from a saved game about a day or so after beating this game to see the ending again, I still had questions running through my mind like: "But she's still a Sorceress! Won't they just try to lock her up again?" "Ultimecia still exists and can take control of her! WTF!"

    Weeks later I heard of this R=U. That helped fill the blanks for me.

    If there is a successor to Rinoa, name him/her. But there is no 'evidence' of a successor, is there? No... The Succession is there, but no successor.

    All I'm seeing now is just some adamant view of "The Happy Ending"...

    Almost a bigoted POV that nothing else could even be 'possible'?

    And speaking of fan-fics...

    "Enjoy your Happy Ending O'Fated Children, for time... it will not wait... no matter how hard you hold on, it escapes you. Fate, you can not escape it. The War of the Witches is coming. Let the Witch Hunts begin... Starting with Sorceress Rinoa. "
    Last edited by Pharoh Amon Khan III; 09-05-2006 at 03:36 PM.

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