Dood, I killed your story!

[Wolf Kanno]

It's a little misleading but basically this is a thread to discuss complaints about story related messes throughout the whole series. Bad characters, horrible plot-twists, and poor writing are discussed here.

Who knows, maybe we'll come to an agreement on the worst story related incident in the series.

The whole series is up for debate and feel free to mention multiple scenes to question, I just ask for you to be specific and to understand that this isn't a "What game has the worst plot" Be friendly and be funny...

Also, cause someone brought this to my attention... This thread will contain massive spoilers especially for the more recent games, you have been warned!!! For the rest of us, please use spoiler tags if the scene in question might ruin the game for others. Thank you...

[NINJA_Ryu]

You know whats the worst?

Final Fantasy the FIRST!

geez, how did anyone EVER like it!

Mundane plot, ZERO charachter development, and they didnt even have Cid!

Chaos? Lame villan, period.

[Zeromus_X]

It's a Famicom RPG made in 1987. You can't even expect an RPG from that era to have a deep or thought-provoking storyline. The entire thing is pretty revolutionary as it is (whole time loop thing and what-not).

[Crossblades]

It's a Famicom RPG made in 1987. You can't even expect an RPG from that era to have a deep or thought-provoking storyline. The entire thing is pretty revolutionary as it is (whole time loop thing and what-not).

Exactly. Dragon Quest I was the same way

[Bahamut2000X]

It's a Famicom RPG made in 1987. You can't even expect an RPG from that era to have a deep or thought-provoking storyline. The entire thing is pretty revolutionary as it is (whole time loop thing and what-not).

Exactly 100% agree there. You can't seriously ever think a game made at the dawn of gamings birth to have a story as deep as games now a day do, do ya? Not to mention the fact that the space limits on cartridges for the NES wern't very impressive, heck I wouldn't be surprized if the first 3 FF's pushed the limits of how much could be stored on a single NES cartridge.

I'll get back to bad story on FF as I could go on about VIII and X for a while, in probably not the nicest manner. >.>

[Griff]

If anyone here has ever read any of my posts you pretty much know what I'm going to say when it comes to bad storylines and character development (or lack thereof). If not (SPOILER) FF7 .
Feel free to discuss.

[Wolf Kanno]

Just a reminder, this is NOT a discussion of the worst game in the series overall (besides, we all know it's FFX-2:rolleyes2 ), and please be specific about story scenes. List as much as you want.


Worst plot twist, FFX for the whole (SPOILER)"Tidus is some dead people's dream". If they had planned to kill him off instead of Yuna, they could have done it better, instead of throwing this odd ball twist that served no purpose rather than to kill Tidus off in the end.

Zidane's past from FFIX. I've complained about this before. I usually don't care when a game rips off another games storyline as long as it is done well. I cannot condone a game ripping off the plot of itself. Zidane's past is basically (SPOILER)the same as Vivi's. Both are manufactured bio weapons created to cause war and chaos in Gaia. This game was going great till they landed this pile of in my lap. It wasn't even done very well!

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Tales of Legendia rehashed a bunch of old character concepts from earlier, better Tales games. And the plot and theme was right out of generic shounen manga #361.

[Jowy]

That and you can win every single battle by just bashing your fist against the controller.

[Shlup]

Behold the Void, the topic of this thread is Final Fantasy games, not Tales games. Please do not go off-topic in threads; it is considered spam and if your behavior does not improve you will be banned.

[The Captain]

That's a plot twist right there.







I think all of the FF games had some plot device that felt forced. Each one had at least one moment, whether it be explaining a character's motivation or history or explaining a plot device that really probably wouldn't happen, but must for the game to continue.


Take care all.

[Bunny]

You know whats the worst?

Final Fantasy the FIRST!

geez, how did anyone EVER like it!

Mundane plot, ZERO charachter development, and they didnt even have Cid!

Chaos? Lame villan, period.

What are you talking about? My thief turned into a ninja. That's development!

P.S. Chaos is better than Sin. Tra-la-la~

Worst plot twist, FFX for the whole "Tidus is some dead people's dream". If they had planned to kill him off instead of Yuna, they could have done it better, instead of throwing this odd ball twist that served no purpose rather than to kill Tidus off in the end.

I agree with this. Although I only liked three things about FFX: The Grid System, the difficulty or lack thereof, and that it ended. Not the ending, mind you. Just the fact that it ended.

[Wild0ne]

Things I hate about the series:

FFI - The characters don't have names!! No!! What were their mothers thinking?? "You just gave birth to a Light Warrior!! He is gonna save the world one day. What do you want to name him?" "Uh, I don't know!!"

FFII - What were they thinking here? Your characters don't level up with experience, but with healed scars....crappy. "Hey I need more HP!! Can you bash my face in with your club?? Thank you!!"

FFV - I liked everything except the fact !Rapidfire + Dualwield on Advance just owns everything...Just makes people sad when you can have four characters attack 32 times, thats just overkill. And no 12 million HP boss to take out..... "Hey the last boss. One round. 10 seconds of playing. 30 minutes of waiting for the end. Good Times."

FFVIII - What no MP?? Can't but new weapons?? The GF's (summons) can die?? A card game???? WTF is junctioning?? Its like a new series all its own. These are just some of the things I didnt like. "Hey did you hear a new FF came out? No MP!! Then how the heck do I cast spells?? Getting them from creatures?? And I thought just trying to kill creatures every 3 seconds was annoying.."

FFX - The sphere grid IMO sucked. Just level the guys and let then build themselves. If I wanted to choose to make everyone have the same abilites or something confusing with leveling, I would play something else....Also didn't like the part about making weapons. I thinking weapons should be unique... "Tidus just gained a sphere level!! What does that mean??? I don't know!! I need an instruction booklet just to level up!!!!!"

That's all for now....

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

Behold the Void, the topic of this thread is Final Fantasy games, not Tales games. Please do not go off-topic in threads; it is considered spam and if your behavior does not improve you will be banned.

:frust:

Well if you want to be THAT way about it.

I will say FFVII's story never really impressed me.

At all.

May be partly because of the hype, but I found it to be profoundly mediocre and unimpressive.

However, at least I was able to finish FFVII. Between FFVIII's system and plot, well, let's just say I could only stomache so much.

[NeoCracker]

Tidus Being a Dream was pretty bad, though I'll admit him going away in the end was pretty well done.

Bringing him back in X-2 however completely massacered X's ending.