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    I think they should have a FFAC Part 2.
    I wholeheartedly disagree.
    No more FFVII spinoffs thank you.
    Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    I wholeheartedly disagree.
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    I wholeheartedly agree. With Mirage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    No more FFVII spinoffs thank you.
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    I agree with original poster. (SPOILER)NOT.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Anarcus View Post
    FF7 was definitely a great franchise to expand upon, however they handled it all wrong. They should have taken a lesson from Star Wars.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, and no more Advent Children for me, thank you.
    That about covers it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Anarcus View Post
    FF7 was definitely a great franchise to expand upon, however they handled it all wrong. They should have taken a lesson from Star Wars.
    You're right. Maybe Square Enix should stop making Final Fantasy altogether.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    I wholeheartedly disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Anarcus View Post
    FF7 was definitely a great franchise to expand upon, however they handled it all wrong. They should have taken a lesson from Star Wars.
    You're right. Maybe Square Enix should stop making Final Fantasy altogether.
    I've thought of that as well. I mean, I'd hate to see it happen, but perhaps it is time to hand the reigns to someone else. Someone who will save the franchise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crayzee gamr View Post
    i agree with Mirage as well no more advent children and no more FF7 sequels/prequels, they have enough already if there's more its ridiculous. It will get boring and the people who love FF7 will begin to hate it.
    It'll be like pokemon (which is still on TV ), it will get boring and not entertaining. sorry but that's wut i think.

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    No, no, no and for the forth time NO! No more FF7 spinoffs for me, thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Anarcus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Anarcus View Post
    FF7 was definitely a great franchise to expand upon, however they handled it all wrong. They should have taken a lesson from Star Wars.
    You're right. Maybe Square Enix should stop making Final Fantasy altogether.
    I've thought of that as well. I mean, I'd hate to see it happen, but perhaps it is time to hand the reigns to someone else. Someone who will save the franchise.
    I think it's a little too late for that. I think square has made too many missteps, their best and brightest have all left for greener pastures, their other franchises have either jumped the shark, or been canned, and all they seem to have left by this point (besides FF) is Kingdom Hearts, which isn't really all that.

    The beauty of old school Final Fantasy was that with every installment, it reinvented itself from the ground up. The story explored new and unique themes, and the characters often changed radically. This is what kept it fresh once upon a time. But by this point, Square has everyone that kept the magic going, and the ones who are left are just recycling themes and ideas, all that are left are gameplay systems that range from interesting, to genuinely fun despite having lackluster stories, and great graphics. But in a rpg it's the story and characters that are the lynchpin, and time and again square has faltered in this area as of late. I'd like to see the company turn it around, but unless something drastic happens I doubt thats likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Anarcus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Anarcus View Post
    FF7 was definitely a great franchise to expand upon, however they handled it all wrong. They should have taken a lesson from Star Wars.
    You're right. Maybe Square Enix should stop making Final Fantasy altogether.
    I've thought of that as well. I mean, I'd hate to see it happen, but perhaps it is time to hand the reigns to someone else. Someone who will save the franchise.
    final fantasy is doing just fine with square enix. besides it wouldnt make any sense going to a different company. final fantasy is what saved squaresoft. sure spirits within hurt it so badly it needed to join with enix but whatever. final fantasy is doing jsut fine in the hands of square enix. FFX wasnt too ba dand FFXII was great and FFXIII looks awesome all ready.

    as for another advent children it wouldnt work better off going to another final fantasy for a movie. even though id love to see where denzel is going to end up. i just dont think itd work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Anarcus View Post
    I'd hate to see it happen, but perhaps it is time to hand the reigns to someone else. Someone who will save the franchise.
    That's not what I meant. I was only being proper when I enboldened the words "Square Enix." I wasn't emphasizing it. I'm thinking Final Fantasy should end altogether. No one else can handle it and it isn't the saving grace of the company anymore. I love the other games they've come out with and as much as I'd truthfully like to see Cloud's story continue, frankly I don't trust that anyone has what it takes to make it good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx View Post
    Final Fantasy is doing just fine with Square Enix. Besides, it wouldn't make any sense going to a different company. Final Fantasy is what saved Squaresoft. Sure Spirits Within hurt it so badly it needed to join with Enix, but whatever. Final Fantasy is doing just fine in the hands of Square Enix. Final Fantasy X wasn't soo bad and Final Fantasy XII was great and Final Fantasy XIII looks awesome already.

    As for another Advent Children, it wouldn't work better off going to another Final Fantasy for a movie. Even though I'd love to see where Denzel is going to end up. I just don't think it'd work.
    Still, it's better to retire the horse before you run it into the ground. Some Final Fantasys may not have been soo bad, but the fact that they weren't soo good doesn't help.

    Every child in the Final Fantasy universe is destined to become a warrior of some sort ... either that or a worrier.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

    By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx View Post
    final fantasy is doing just fine with square enix. besides it wouldnt make any sense going to a different company. final fantasy is what saved squaresoft. sure spirits within hurt it so badly it needed to join with enix but whatever. final fantasy is doing jsut fine in the hands of square enix. FFX wasnt too ba dand FFXII was great and FFXIII looks awesome all ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud_Lion_Heart View Post
    I think they should have a FFAC Part 2.
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    One where the kids are a little older and the Remnants come back. This time they must return to the life stream and also take the planet with it. As the remnants fight (kadaj, Loz, and the other one) they can merge with each other and form Sephiroth himself. That way they are super cool. Also when it’s over Sephiroth finally kills cloud and Barret takes the kids to an underground facility where Vincent went to in Dirge of Cerberus. Sephiroth shows his love for his remnants by attacking the whole planet down to the birth of the life stream, which is in outer space. In AC he said what I want cloud, is to sail the darkness of the universe using this planet as my vessel. And FF always had the meteor or the wheel I thought the planet going through the cosmos would look pretty sweet.
    What would be the point in killing Cloud? I for one would despise that and think Square to be complete arseholes.

    I'm not sure what the nature of Crisis Core is going to be on the PSP, but I do know that you take control of Zack. I'd be interested to see what exactly drove Sephiroth insane in the first place. There are many theories, and mine is that Sephiroth can manipulate because of the Jenova cells within him. That would mean Jenova has the power to manipulate beings that harbour her cells as well. I believe she may have tampered with his mind when he realised how he was created IN the Nibelheim reactor where she was at the time.

    Cloud says in FFVII that if Sephiroth comes near him, he could be manipulated. Sephiroth was good in the beginning, and when he was near Jenova, Cloud says "normal members of soldier, you mean you're different?" and then he loses it. While he's vulnerable at that point, Jenova could have tampered with his mind. It makes sense to me anyway.

    IF they did something else, I'd want them to explain Jenova and the story of Sephiroth completely. You know, the first coming of meteor, what Jenova actually is (so I've heard she's meant to be the spirit of a planet that died, became what is called the ultimate weapon, and travelled to FFVII's world on a piece of the dead planet because she was searching for another planet to take over). Apparently some of this is explained in the FFVII Ultimania Omega book which has never been translated into English.

    Whether they made a game previous to Before Crisis (on a mobile phone - pfeh), or a film similar to Advent Children, or even just a book explaining the story, that's what I'd like to see. I wouldn't care what shape or form it'd be in.
    I know some people say they don't want to see any more spinoffs, and to be honest I can agree because Square would most likely make a huge mistake somewhere, but I'd still like to know the truth behind Jenova and Sephiroth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Anarcus View Post
    FF7 was definitely a great franchise to expand upon, however they handled it all wrong. They should have taken a lesson from Star Wars.
    You're right. Maybe Square Enix should stop making Final Fantasy altogether.
    The franchise belongs to Hironobu Sakaguchi, and he and Nobuo Uematsu quit Square along with a good number of other employees. Don't get me wrong, I still love Final Fantasy, but it has been going for over 20 years now and I think they're probably getting towards the end of the road now. In my opinion they made huge mistakes with the way they did FFX, FFX-2 and FFXI. I sincerely hope they've redeemed themselves with FFXII.

    Does anyone know that Sakaguchi and Uematsu are working together in Microsoft now? www.mistwalker.info/lo.html
    Lost Odyssey, soon to be out on Xbox 360. I think this could be the new series Sakaguchi is starting (well I heard he was trying to start a new series to try and kill Final Fantasy - just a rumour though).
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    They're not working in Microsoft. They work at an independent game studio which so far only develop games for the 360. They're not bound to any specific platform at all, and they're free to change anytime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    They're not working in Microsoft. They work at an independent game studio which so far only develop games for the 360. They're not bound to any specific platform at all, and they're free to change anytime.
    I meant that, really......>_<'
    I think I said that because I read it on a website. Methinks it was an interview with Hironobu Sakaguchi...but you're right anyway.
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