Favorite Villian?

[Holy Lancer]

Seymour because he is so insane and creepy. I like X-Death and Kuja alot.

[forgotten_fantasy]

Die sephiroth you stupid grey haired, strange faced, superman impersonator

[Erin]

FFX Seymour.

[Kanshisha]

Hmm sephiroth...Man when you vs him you have to beat him 3 times!

[chrisfffan]

my best bad guy poll has selected the best from the series theirs only four you cant be serious about the other characters so vote on my thread.

http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=101356

[Setzer Gabianni]

Erm, I don't think so. This is a more accurate poll, so people will feel the need to vote in this.

I vote Vayne.

[jammi567]

Ultimcia, because she created the most complex plot that people are still talking about it today.

[DarkLadyNyara]

my best bad guy poll has selected the best from the series theirs only four you cant be serious about the other characters so vote on my thread.

http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=101356

Kinda difficult when it's been closed.

Besides, this is not "best", it's "favorite". And both of those are subjective anyway. (I mean, really. Garland?)

[Sidderz]

Have to say that my favourite is probablly Kuja. Although Kefka is really REALLY badass!

[OneWingedAngelSephiroth91]

Kefka is probably the only villain in FF to ever achieve their goals (he became a god) and the party couldn't stop him. (Though they did defeat him in the end from destroying the world.) Quite possibly the #1 villain of FF.

If Kefka isn't the best then it's most likely Kuja. Kuja had also accomplished his goal of killing Garland and achieving Trance. He had many qualities like Kefka that make him a great villain as well.

I expected Sephy to have a lot of popularity. He is a great villain, but the fact that he looks cool and totally beats Kefka the clown and Kuja the cross-dresser by looks is probably what many people like him for, not his villainy.

But I seriously never thought Ultimecia would actually do this well. After all, you never even got to see her directly until the end of the game.

Honestly, me and Boco both think Ultimecia just plain sucks in almost every way. :rolleyes2

But hey, that's just us.

Honestly... your wrong about why everone likes Sephiroth. I personally like him for his AWSOME weapon, AWSOME looks, and AWSOME additude... plus his superhuman ablilities such as coming back after a year or two... control the will of Jenova (who wouldn't want that?)... and his masterful plan...

Ultimcia, because she created the most complex plot that people are still talking about it today.

Not really... alot of people are talking about Sephiroth more...plus (I love this) He's in more than one game...fuwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Hmm sephiroth...Man when you vs him you have to beat him 3 times!

There I DEFINANTLY agree with you. Yeah, the first form is easy but acording to a rumor I heard, Safer Saphiroth gets EXTREMLY powerful for every level 99 or so characters. I'd like to see any other badies get more powerful depending on level like that...

[Goldenboko]

Kefka is probably the only villain in FF to ever achieve their goals (he became a god) and the party couldn't stop him. (Though they did defeat him in the end from destroying the world.) Quite possibly the #1 villain of FF.

If Kefka isn't the best then it's most likely Kuja. Kuja had also accomplished his goal of killing Garland and achieving Trance. He had many qualities like Kefka that make him a great villain as well.

I expected Sephy to have a lot of popularity. He is a great villain, but the fact that he looks cool and totally beats Kefka the clown and Kuja the cross-dresser by looks is probably what many people like him for, not his villainy.

But I seriously never thought Ultimecia would actually do this well. After all, you never even got to see her directly until the end of the game.

Honestly, me and Boco both think Ultimecia just plain sucks in almost every way. :rolleyes2

But hey, that's just us.

Honestly... your wrong about why everone likes Sephiroth. I personally like him for his AWSOME weapon, AWSOME looks, and AWSOME additude... plus his superhuman ablilities such as coming back after a year or two... control the will of Jenova (who wouldn't want that?)... and his masterful plan...

Exactly, people like him because of his looks, and weapon... not because of any true villianistic deeds. I have a friend who acts just like you, "I love Seph! Seph is awesome!" Guess what? He hasn't even played FFVII he just knows what Sephiroth looks like and what his blade is like. PuPu is right in every way, most people like Sephiroth for his looks and his blade.

Ultimcia, because she created the most complex plot that people are still talking about it today.

Not really... alot of people are talking about Sephiroth more...plus (I love this) He's in more than one game...fuwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Actually, no. The R=U theory is one of the most argued and flamed debates there is in FF history, I've been involved in about three debates in eyesonff about that in the past 3 months. And what does more then 1 production have anything to do with a complex plot?

Hmm sephiroth...Man when you vs him you have to beat him 3 times!

There I DEFINANTLY agree with you. Yeah, the first form is easy but acording to a rumor I heard, Safer Saphiroth gets EXTREMLY powerful for every level 99 or so characters. I'd like to see any other badies get more powerful depending on level like that...

Multi-fighting ending bosses isn't rare you fight FFXIIVayne three times as well

[OneWingedAngelSephiroth91]

It was close, but Kuja won out over Kefka.

They are both far superior to Sephiroth in the Following Catagories

1) Motives
A) Sephiroth: He was manipulated by Jenova any way, but for you people who believe he wasn't lets just pretend that it was all him anyway. He wanted to use the planet as a form of space travel to devour other world for no reason other than he was an ass.

B) Kefka: Quite possibley the most evil and insane person ever in a video game. He is a man who one day snapped due to the empires Magiteck experiments. He worked his way up the empire to obtain the powers of teh Magic Gods themselves so that he could inevetably end existance, which with the rational of his highly untable mind determined was pointless, and to end the suffering was a noble aspiration he wished ot achieve, or something to that effect.

C) Kuja: He seeked to no longre be Garlands lap dog. He wanted to prove himself greater than his the one sent down instead of him. Seekign to become stronger than Garland, he manipulated the entirety of the planet, gaining the power of the eidions, all the while discovering something even Greater, Trance. With this power he eradicated his creator and his world. In the end he even tries to destroy everything when faced with his own mortality.

2) PErsonality
a) Sephiroth: He has no personality. He doesn't manipulate, he doesn't do anything behind the scenes, and he likes making cloud feel sad, basicly he's a school bully he gets his kicks picking on people. This leads me to believe one thing, people who like sephiroth probably got off whenever the school bully gave them a wedgie.

b) Kefka: Crazy to the bone. He has an ego inflated like no other, and expects all of his unruly demands to be met. Quite twisted and coniving as well.

c) Kuja: Twisted, Egotistical, Caniving. He is probably the most intelegent of all the FF Villians, as no one has ever worked behind the seens as well as him. He had manipulated an entire planet for christ sakes. Also, the thing I like is the very human trait they gave him, the fear of death mixed with extreme power.

3) Style
A)Sephiroth: I can't say anything bad as he does look cool with his hair and sword, but nothing unique or Original.

B) Kefka: This is the only person who could pull off a Crazy Clown look and still be the MAin Villian. And no one will ever pull it off quite so well.

C) He does not look Gay or like a Girl. Very Feminine yes, but by not a girl. His outfit rocks, or at least what little of one he has. Also his Trance form is by far superior to Sephiroth. He truly looks like a villian.

What are you talking about Sephiroth... you apparently havn't watched the game (what they say) or the movie. I truly like Sephiroth because he's insane and he got reasons...but not yo other evil-lians, noooo, nope never have I heard that any villian had a reason to be evil other that Sephiroth... and besides, I'd like to hear you say that the only Final Fantasy villian you can kick @$$ on Kingdom Hearts is the one, the only, Sephiroth... one more thing Sephiroth even has an actual song with words all about him during the battle against him... Kuja was just a trans if you ask me.. and yes he does look like a girl (especially in trance... that hair waving like he's underwater) plus his clothes are way too girly..I'd like to see them on my girlfriend instead.

[Leeza]

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[OneWingedAngelSephiroth91]

Kefka, hands down. He actually succeeds at his goal of blighting the face of the planet and becoming a god. None of the other villains come even close. Plus, he doubles as comic relief. What's not to love?

That said, insert the obligatory disclaimer that I haven't played FFI-III, FFT, FFVIII, or FFXII.

I'd also consider the primary antagonists of FFVII to be Jenova and Hojo, not Sephiroth. Yes, I know what the Ultimania guide says, but honestly, smurf all this moneygrubbing sequel crap Square is releasing these days

I'd like you to prove that Jenova or that freak Hojo was the bad guy...'cause the last time I played the game, Sephiroth had complete control of Jenova and Hojo foolish enough to put Jenova cells in himself. Thus causing the battle between Hojo versus your party.

[Goldenboko]

It was close, but Kuja won out over Kefka.

They are both far superior to Sephiroth in the Following Catagories

1) Motives
A) Sephiroth: He was manipulated by Jenova any way, but for you people who believe he wasn't lets just pretend that it was all him anyway. He wanted to use the planet as a form of space travel to devour other world for no reason other than he was an ass.

B) Kefka: Quite possibley the most evil and insane person ever in a video game. He is a man who one day snapped due to the empires Magiteck experiments. He worked his way up the empire to obtain the powers of teh Magic Gods themselves so that he could inevetably end existance, which with the rational of his highly untable mind determined was pointless, and to end the suffering was a noble aspiration he wished ot achieve, or something to that effect.

C) Kuja: He seeked to no longre be Garlands lap dog. He wanted to prove himself greater than his the one sent down instead of him. Seekign to become stronger than Garland, he manipulated the entirety of the planet, gaining the power of the eidions, all the while discovering something even Greater, Trance. With this power he eradicated his creator and his world. In the end he even tries to destroy everything when faced with his own mortality.

2) PErsonality
a) Sephiroth: He has no personality. He doesn't manipulate, he doesn't do anything behind the scenes, and he likes making cloud feel sad, basicly he's a school bully he gets his kicks picking on people. This leads me to believe one thing, people who like sephiroth probably got off whenever the school bully gave them a wedgie.

b) Kefka: Crazy to the bone. He has an ego inflated like no other, and expects all of his unruly demands to be met. Quite twisted and coniving as well.

c) Kuja: Twisted, Egotistical, Caniving. He is probably the most intelegent of all the FF Villians, as no one has ever worked behind the seens as well as him. He had manipulated an entire planet for christ sakes. Also, the thing I like is the very human trait they gave him, the fear of death mixed with extreme power.

3) Style
A)Sephiroth: I can't say anything bad as he does look cool with his hair and sword, but nothing unique or Original.

B) Kefka: This is the only person who could pull off a Crazy Clown look and still be the MAin Villian. And no one will ever pull it off quite so well.

C) He does not look Gay or like a Girl. Very Feminine yes, but by not a girl. His outfit rocks, or at least what little of one he has. Also his Trance form is by far superior to Sephiroth. He truly looks like a villian.

What are you talking about Sephiroth... you apparently havn't watched the game (what they say) or the movie. I truly like Sephiroth because he's insane and he got reasons...but not yo other evil-lians, noooo, nope never have I heard that any villian had a reason to be evil other that Sephiroth... and besides, I'd like to hear you say that the only Final Fantasy villian you can kick @$$ on Kingdom Hearts is the one, the only, Sephiroth... one more thing Sephiroth even has an actual song with words all about him during the battle against him... Kuja was just a trans if you ask me.. and yes he does look like a girl (especially in trance... that hair waving like he's underwater) plus his clothes are way too girly..I'd like to see them on my girlfriend instead.

*Hears insulting of Kuja*
Let me start by saying Kuja's clothes and looks describe his character, he manipulates others to get his way, much like how a beautiful woman will manipulate mento buy her gifts....

Moving on.
You talk alot about Sephiroth, but you never give anything except for opinions, "Sephiroth had the best motives out of any FF Villian," alright, well maybe you can tell us what those motives are. But you don't one reason you don't is because you probably fear your posts being refutited. Kuja had great motives, he was tired of being controlled, he wanted freedom a simple irresitable human feeling, then once he gets it he wants more, which is something you can see happen over and over in human history. Beleivable, and realistic.
Sephiroth finds out a dark secret about himself, which drives him over the edge into insanity, but after that there is very little talk of his motives, it becomes "I want this! I want that!" but nothing else. Also please tell me how him being in KH1 and KH2 makes his motives superior to Kefka and Kuja's? Oh thats right, it doesn't it just proves he's liked by many people.