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Though I will say I can't stand how the guy is being written today. He was once the consumate soldier, ultimate leader and tactician, and heart and soul of the X-Men. Now he's just a flaming emo punk and White queens boy toy. Someone please shoot the writer that thought up that one please.
Don't go knocking Grant Morrison now. He breathed some much needed life into the X-Men when he took over on New X-Men a few years ago if you ask me. I also have to say that right now, Joss Whedon is writing Cyclops (and all the characters on in Astonishing for that matter) better than I've seen any of them be in years. Not only does he make Cyclops more than the hardcore tactician/leader with a stick up his butt, he does it while keeping him the hardcore tactician/leader with a stick up his butt. Cyclops hasn't been this well rounded a character in a long time.

I have to agree with you on Wolverine in most of the books he shows up in these days though. Again though, Astonishing almost seems like a haven where those of us who remember him actually taking some time to heal can see him returned to his slightly more mortal glory (he still heals faster than he did 20 years ago, but it's not regenerate from a skeleton in five minutes fast).
I remember reading one issue a while back where Emma frost dressed up in Jean Grey's old outfit and laid a psychic mindfunk on cyclops where he was fantasizing he was wolverine, and how the only reason Professor X made him team leader was that he was so pathetic if the prof didn't do something to encourage him he would have never amounted to anything. Then there was of course the B-plot where Kitty and colossus finally get it on. It read like some torrid 14 year olds fan fiction and the sight of emma in the prior issue posing like a slut saying she's in cyclops's favorite outfit (AKA making herself look like Jean Grey) made me hope the next page had him "accidently" letting loose an optic blast that vaporized her.

Sadly it didn't. And that was the last time I picked up an X-men comic.

As for wolverine. I just want to find the first wolverine mini series that clairemont did, the one where he first meets mariko and fights Shingen, and make it mandatory reading for all those that write a wolverine story. Now THAT was how you make wolverine cool without going overboard with the tough guy trip. Even the part in Dark phoenix saga where he has to take on those hellfire grunts alone was good because at a couple of points he was almost killed and got out of there by luck.

Problem with X-men these days, and most marvel franchises, is that it is a franchise. It can't and won't really end. This makes any real deaths or story developments pointless because you know a year later it's going to be canceled out or the characters are going to be written differently. This is the main draw behind Manga and Anime. The stories often have a clear and concise beginning, middle, and end. Regardless of the quality, it's good to see a story that is finite and that has a point other then just making $$$. I respect clairemont because for his run on the book he established plot strings and story elements that have gone on and been developed for over thirty years now. It's just that by now, It looks like all the stories he established have run their course. Maybe it's time to put this dog to sleep.

As for morrison... I just can't accept the punk. Sure he came up with some interesting ideas, but for every cassandra nova or secondary mutation, there is the idea of scott and emma getting it on on the astral plaine, just cuz scott was still messed up after merging with apoccalypse. Sure that would mess a guy up, but to cheat on his wife, the woman with whom he's shared a pschic link with for years, on account of that? not a effin chance. methinks morrison watched one too many episodes of melrose place before penning that ish.