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    Could you at least give a reason, why you persist on specifying the worlds and names of the characters to real places/cultures? I mean, what is the point in this? As stated NUMEROUS times before, even if you base your fanfic of the american version, the names remain Japanese... Now all this just sounds... stupid. I mean REALLY stupid! Dude, you beter listen to all these guys or you'll regret posting that fanfic... Seriously, for your own good... (I mean - Riku Leila!? WTF!?)
    EDIT: Unless you want to make a spoof of it. Only then would it make sense.

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    Nobody likes me...
    Is that your final answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Nobody likes me... And the names I make are stupid. I hate life. Suicide here I come.
    I agree with your statement. I also agree with what everyone else said about the names being silly. Riku Leila. I mean Riku Leila. Leila. I think you get my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Nobody likes me... :(
    That's not it. I just think your refusal to accept that the differences between the North American and Japanese releases are insignificant frustrates almost everyone beyond belief. Really, go with Japanese surnames. It might actually sound authentic that way.

    You know what? Maybe you shouldn't even bother with last names. It's really not that hard to go through a story without using surnames for any of the characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch! View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Nobody likes me...
    That's not it. I just think your refusal to accept that the differences between the North American and Japanese releases are insignificant frustrates almost everyone beyond belief. Really, go with Japanese surnames. It might actually sound authentic that way.

    You know what? Maybe you shouldn't even bother with last names. It's really not that hard to go through a story without using surnames for any of the characters.
    Quoted for truth.

    It's not that everybody hates you - you just ask for advice and don't want to take it even though people just want to help you and make your story better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch! View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Nobody likes me...
    That's not it. I just think your refusal to accept that the differences between the North American and Japanese releases are insignificant frustrates almost everyone beyond belief. Really, go with Japanese surnames. It might actually sound authentic that way.

    You know what? Maybe you shouldn't even bother with last names. It's really not that hard to go through a story without using surnames for any of the characters.
    Well, it's my personal thing, so maybe I'll use my own stuff, but I'll let you offer suggestions anyway, and see what you come up with.

    And you say that the differences between the Japan and United States versions are minimal? I thought that there were content edits in the American version...
    Is that your final answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Well, it's my personal thing, so maybe I'll use my own stuff, but I'll let you offer suggestions anyway, and see what you come up with.

    And you say that the differences between the Japan and United States versions are minimal? I thought that there were content edits in the American version...
    You're right. It is your personal thing. However, this is the second time you've approached the EoFF community with this question. You've received the same answer twice. You've chosen to ignore said answer.

    You have every right to ignore everyone else in this thread. If you plan to do this, however, I suggest you shut the hell up and move on. It's your fanfiction. Do as you will with it. There's no reason to keep perpetuating an argument if you're not willing to listen to any reasonable debate.

    As far as content edits, they added stuff to the North American release. I've never heard about anything being removed. I can't imagine that there's anything that might be considered "inappropriate" for the North American audience. It's a freaking Disney game. None of that stuff would be in there in the first place. Your point is moot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch! View Post
    As far as content edits, they added stuff to the North American release. I've never heard about anything being removed. I can't imagine that there's anything that might be considered "inappropriate" for the North American audience. It's a freaking Disney game. None of that stuff would be in there in the first place. Your point is moot.
    Xigbar fight: Sniper vision + crosshairs removed, replaces with a triangle (which was pink in color). Restored to sniper vision in FM+ in both fights, Story and Data.

    Pirates: they use crossbows instead of rifles, but the audio effect of gunshots was not changed.

    Several scenes depicting blood were removed. They were either changed to smoke (Hydra boss fight), or removed entirely. Axel's suicide scene is shorter and no longer shows him igniting himself on fire.

    However, I agree that if someone is going to post a topic (twice, no less), not listen to anyone, yet constantly insist of "do it the right way" clearly has already decided, and should simply trust his own judgment. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch! View Post
    As far as content edits, they added stuff to the North American release. I've never heard about anything being removed. I can't imagine that there's anything that might be considered "inappropriate" for the North American audience. It's a freaking Disney game. None of that stuff would be in there in the first place. Your point is moot.
    Xigbar fight: Sniper vision + crosshairs removed, replaces with a triangle (which was pink in color). Restored to sniper vision in FM+ in both fights, Story and Data.

    Pirates: they use crossbows instead of rifles, but the audio effect of gunshots was not changed.

    Several scenes depicting blood were removed. They were either changed to smoke (Hydra boss fight), or removed entirely. Axel's suicide scene is shorter and no longer shows him igniting himself on fire.
    Ah, yeah, I forgot about the first two points. Didn't know 'bout the whole blood/violence thing. Anyway, those aren't the kind of content changes that would in any way justify changing names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Nobody likes me...
    Then don't ask for help and totally ignore those who are trying to help. It's always nice to pay attention to others, especially when they're pointing out something that seems odd about your reasoning, such as mixing Japanese and not-Japanese names together, therefore making names that are just silly.

    If you want people to take you seriously, use Japanese names, or no last name at all. Also, stop coming up with weak arguments that don't really explain crap about your reasoning.

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    These names aren't official, I am putting this in another non-canonical story that is loosely based on but not related to the actual story. Perhaps, I WILL use Japanese last names for the ORIGINAL story (one that Square-Enix might possibly recognize), but in the non-canonical crossover that I am working on, I will use other last names. (Or maybe I will create clones, who knows? One Japanese set and one American set, for two versions of the same character.) Keep in mind, this story is NON-CANONICAL. It is loosely related to but is not tied-in with the actual story.

    I got the idea from the Street Fighter cartoon series. They were given first and last names that Capcom does not officially recognize (ex.: Ryu Hoshi, William Guile). The story of the cartoon series was a loose combination of the live-action movie and the games.
    Is that your final answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    I got the idea from the Street Fighter cartoon series. They were given first and last names that Capcom does not officially recognize (ex.: Ryu Hoshi, William Guile). The story of the cartoon series was a loose combination of the live-action movie and the games.
    Take a look at your own example. Both the names and the surnames are of the same origin. Can't you see it's the only way to make it sound right?

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