Sakaguchi or Nomura?

[Monol]

I think they are both pretty cool...but im a man who likes to pay homage to his elders...Sakaguichi gets my vote but in the end they both go their ups and downs

Sakaguichi

Pros - Created final fantasy...enough said

Cons - Left final fantasy...enough said

Nomura

Pros - Personally i like his character designs even though alot of them are recycled...but some of them work and they look amazing

Cons - I wish directors would start taking some bigger risks with their storys (well i suppose this is just my beef with square enix in general)

But all in all i dont really have a problem with either...like i said their both pretty groovy dudes (Also Masato Kato and Yasumi Matsuno rule...nice mentions fellas)

[Madame Adequate]

I like and dislike parts of both men, and they have both made/greatly controlled excellent games, and mediocre games, have made awesome characters and terrible characters, and etc.

whats up with holy icons in body paint and G-Strings

What's up with presuming all religions throughout the infinite multiverse have exactly the same views on the body as puritanical Abrahamic ones?

[Germ Hamee]

I think they're both pretty lame, to be honest. Sakaguchi takes himself too seriously, and the same themes tend to show up over and over in his stories. Nomura avoids deep themes altogether and opts instead for pure style... which can be a lot of fun, but gets old after awhile without anything substantial to back it up. He also has a very unhealthy obsession with zippers and Gackt.

If I had to choose between the two, I would go with Nomura. This is only because he's still relatively young and has a lot of room to grow and mature as a director, while Sakaguchi - in my opinion - has grown rusty.

Masato Kato. Any day.

[Ashley Schovitz]

I see what the comparioson is of the two Sakaguchi used to be the main man in charge, now it seems like Nomura is taking the series over with Advent, and XIII and all. Yeah and I don't really like his character designs all that much alot of them end up looking alike.

[Rostum]

Gackt.

Is Gackt the guy who sung the Dirge of Cerberus theme songs? Don't really know much about him.

[darksword12]

Which games did Sakaguchi do, and which did Nomura do? Then you'll have my answer.

[Germ Hamee]

Gackt.

Is Gackt the guy who sung the Dirge of Cerberus theme songs? Don't really know much about him.

Wow, apparently. I didn't know anything about that until just now. Most of what I know about Gackt is he's big in the music industry, and a lot of Nomura's character designs look IDENTICAL to a few of Gackt's photoshoots.

[Madame Adequate]

Can't believe I forgot to mention Masato Kato >_<

[Ishin Ookami]

Which games did Sakaguchi do, and which did Nomura do? Then you'll have my answer.

Sakaguchi

Final Fantasy I-VI, IX, X, Spirits Within
Producer and director

assistant scenario writer on FFVII

Nomura
FFVII, FFVIII, FFX-2, Kingdom Hearts, Advent Children
Producer, character designer and Director.

FFX
Character Designer

[darksword12]

Sakaguchi. Sakaguchi all the way. Realism has no place in FF.

And now that Nomura has refused to remake FF7 I hate his guts.

[Karellen]

Which games did Sakaguchi do, and which did Nomura do? Then you'll have my answer.

Sakaguchi

Final Fantasy I-VI, IX, X, Spirits Within
Producer and director

assistant scenario writer on FFVII

Nomura
FFVII, FFVIII, FFX-2, Kingdom Hearts, Advent Children
Producer, character designer and Director.

FFX
Character Designer

Some of those credits are a little off. To my knowledge, Sakaguchi was only the producer and director of FFI-V and Spirits Within. He was only the producer for FFVI and FFIX (with a original concept writing credit) and had no real involvement at all in FFX.

Also, Nomura was only a character designer for FFVII, FFVIII, FFX-2 beyond having a writing credit in FFVII (he worked on the original concept with Sakaguchi, with only the vague concepts within it making it into the final script).

Most of these can be found on www.mobygames.com. For some reason they only list credits for the Advance versions of FFIV-VI though, so I'll have to track down another source for those games (those only other game credit site I could find was in Japanese).

[Ishin Ookami]

Which games did Sakaguchi do, and which did Nomura do? Then you'll have my answer.

Sakaguchi

Final Fantasy I-VI, IX, X, Spirits Within
Producer and director

assistant scenario writer on FFVII

Nomura
FFVII, FFVIII, FFX-2, Kingdom Hearts, Advent Children
Producer, character designer and Director.

FFX
Character Designer

Some of those credits are a little off. To my knowledge, Sakaguchi was only the producer and director of FFI-V and Spirits Within. He was only the producer for FFVI and FFIX (with a original concept writing credit) and had no real involvement at all in FFX.

Also, Nomura was only a character designer for FFVII, FFVIII, FFX-2 beyond having a writing credit in FFVII (he worked on the original concept with Sakaguchi, with only the vague concepts within it making it into the final script).

Most of these can be found on www.mobygames.com. For some reason they only list credits for the Advance versions of FFIV-VI though, so I'll have to track down another source for those games (those only other game credit site I could find was in Japanese).

Nomura was the lead director on X-2, I remember seeing the credits for the japanese version and his name was definitely on there. Also FFVIII was also his baby, after the success of FFVII square gave him free reign to see what he could do... then revoked it when the game was a washout in japan.

hence why it wasn't until after sakaguchi left that he took over directorial and producing duties for several of squares projects.

and sakaguchi was the director and producer for FFX. it was his name on the in-game credits. But you are right about my mistake on FFVI, he did write and produce, but it was Kitase (nomura's current right hand man) who directed.

[Vivisteiner]

You've all gone and forgotten Amano!

He was the one who designed the characters for FFI-VI as well as IX.

[Ishin Ookami]

You've all gone and forgotten Amano!

He was the one who designed the characters for FFI-VI as well as IX.

no one has forgotten about the great and mighty Amano, or at least I havn't, I think the main point of discussion here is who was the superior director/producer.

[Ishin Ookami]

I would have to say I like Sakaguchi more, even though I have nothing against Nomura. I guess I just like the overlying theme throughout many of Sakaguchi's works.

I think it's great that Sakaguchi is working on other games now with Mistwalker. It was probably a breath of fresh air to him leaving the company and working on original games that weren't Final Fantasy.

one thing that I respect sakaguchi for is being able to create FF storylines that felt unique and different. There is no way you could ever confuse the characters from FFIV with those in X or IX. Each of them are different and unique. Each of them have their own struggles and issues to wrestle with.

As for Nomura, his storylines are inconsequential to his style. All his stories feel similar in tone and themes. Each of his characters wrestle with similar themes (romance, friendship, why does the world suck, why am I so badass) and rarely seem any different from the characters from any of his other titles. And like I've said before, the man just issues when it comes to his female characters.