The Location of Dream Zanarkand
Reading around on the internet, I read that "dream zanarkand" is actually located out at sea. This would make sense since something thats summoned becomes a physical entity.
However, if the Al Bhed could locate Baj temple, whats stopped them from locating Dream zanarkand?
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Dream Zanarkand doesn't exist anywhere in the physical world. Dreams just don't do that.
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Zanarkand - The Final Fantasy Wiki has more Final Fantasy information than Cid could research1000 years ago. It was the Machina War between Zanarkand and Bevelle. Despite being a great machina city, Zanarkand relied on summoners to fight. Bevelle's machina though, assured their victory and Zanarkand was doomed to destruction. Yu Yevon, not wanting Zanarkand to die forever, decided to preserve its memory. He called on all the surviving people, turned them into fayth and placed them on Mt. Gagazet, protected by a dense mist. From their memories he created Dream Zanarkand and set it far out at sea. To protect himself and his city while he summoned it, Yu Yevon amassed a great amount of pyreflies to form an armor around him; an armor called Sin. Thus, Sin was born, with its purpose to protect the Dream Zanarkand by any means possible. Summoning both the city and Sin was a greater strain than Yu Yevon could handle; thus only his instincts to protect his beloved city remained and the spiral of death started. Jecht and Tidus, father and son and citizens of the dream city, became real when they touched Sin and were brought to Spira to end the spiral of death that has ravaged it for 1000 years.
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I have photographic proof actually, scanned from my Ultimania
The map bellow shows a square with DZ on the top right (after you rotate the picture to it's proper setting). The layout of the land is quite different from the Zanarkand ruins on Yuna's area.
Image:Zanarkand us.jpg - FFProject
Ultimania FFX says that Yu Yevon and Sin kept all ships away from it.
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But Sin doesnt exist during the calm?
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Yu Yevon can reset things at will.Originally Posted by Jimsour
This has to be the most confusing aspects of the game. Since Tidus was convinced through most of FFX that the real Zanarkand was the same as his DZ, and that it lay in ruins for 1000 years, he (and the player) were convinced that he travelled 1000 years in time. The game obviously did not do a great job clarifying this.
Once it becomes clear that they coexist in time, logically they cannot coexist in space. So they have to be in two different locations. Nowhere in DZ do we ever see Mt. Gagazet. Nor do we see land boundaries. So it being an island fits.
As for the dreaming, the dreams of the Fayth can actually take on a coporeal state using Pyreflies: Aeons, people, and an entire city even. What's equally interesting is that most of the inhabitants of DZ seem pretty unaware that they are living in an isolated self-contained place. Only Jecht and Auron seemed to be aware of anything beyond the borders.
It could be argued that this point was left intentionally obscure by the writers. Having to explain it in game would take a lengthy amount of time. I rather give to the writers for leaving it obscure, since it would take a heap of logic and putting things together to arrive at the conclusion that there was no time travel involved, especially because nowhere does it say in the game that Sin can defy physics. He flies because of his wings; he swims with fins; if anything, only Yu Yevon can do so, and at this point, he is a mass-less blob of octopussy.
Jecht was not initially aware that there was anything. He only was after an unfortunate occurance of running into Sin while training. Auron was also not originally from DZ, and since he's dead and all that, he's allowed to know these things.
Hmmm, does that fit in with this?Yu Yevon can reset things at will.
If Wiki has got it right. I'm not sure about the idea that Yu Yevon wasnt really on his game. But surely both can't be true.
It is an ability that he has, and even if Sin is on cooldown, if someone ever found out about DZ and Yu Yevon knew about it, he could reset the city so that no one knew about the outsider. Most likely, the intruder would be killed.
Puzzle pieces must go together.
Since the city has already been summoned, it takes no further effort to set it back to point A. He is basically running the show, the calls, and taxing for utilities. I see no reason why it would take extra effort to change something that's already running independently of the summoner, just as it takes no extra MP to keep channeling a summon in a FF game. The cost is paid, and you go on your way.
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DZ IS basically just a massive aeon right? I like to think of Zanarkand as FFX's version of Alexander in some ways.
It makes sense it's out at sea, in fact I was thinking about this the other day...
But anyway, Tidus has only assumed that the real Zanarkand is also an island at the beginning of the game, he does quite quickly realize that his Zanarkand was very different to this ones Zanarkand. So by the time he realizes it's not an island, well by then I think he pretty much knows he's a dream so it's not an issue.
Although yeah, I'm surprised nobody discovered it. I'm guessing the fayth concealed it from the world, and Sin is the only one who can enter or something.
EDIT: Heh Spiras shaped kinda like the UK
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Agreed. A huge aeon, being kept by Yu Yevon whose only instinct is to protect it's existence.
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Killed? By whom? The inhabitants of DZ? If our experience of Tidus and Jecht is typical they aren't barbarians and have considerable free will over their own affairs. Otherwise Tidus and his father could never have opposed Yu Yevon, even though they were in a sense his creatures (aeons).It is an ability that he has, and even if Sin is on cooldown, if someone ever found out about DZ and Yu Yevon knew about it, he could reset the city so that no one knew about the outsider. Most likely, the intruder would be killed.
So I think Jim Sour's point still remains that an Al Bhed ship could have located DZ and escaped during a period of Calm when Sin wasn't protecting it. Of course perhaps no one would have believed them...
Have you ever met someone who has had his memory erased/no memories? Despite what TV drama suggests, they aren't just confused; they are also highly impressionable. Puzzle pieces. What would you do if your landlord asked for the utilities check, and you had no money? You'd either:
A) pay it
Really, there's no other choice. Payment isn't always money.
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