Nintendo Counts Down to Super Smash Bros. Brawl

[Skyblade]

Yeah, seriously. It might not be big for, say, an encyclopedia of Nintendo, but that's what trophies are for. This is a fighting game we're talking about here. Besides, how much could they really change the characters from Game 2 to Game 3 without slapping people who played Game 2 in the face about their mains?

What about game 1 to game 2? They didnt care then certainly (kirby went from top tier to garbage tier along with ness and yoshi) and what about roy, doc, and pichu mains? Its a different game after all so pepole should accept that in that regard.

35 characters for a fighting game based on the biggest video game company on the planet on a dual layered disk?! Im gonna have to disagree but i supose to each its own

Kirby is hardly "garbage tier". He may not be as godly as he was in the original, but he is still one of the best characters in the game.

Doc should never have been added. Mario already had a clone anyway, anyone who wants another is being way too picky.

Pichu was probably the single worst character in the game, and one of the least played. Combining the game's lightest character with attacks that also caused him to hurt himself was one of the strangest design choices in the game. I'm not at all surprised to see the suicidal little critter gone. Cuteness is not a substitute for a survival instinct.

As for Roy, well, I liked him, but I can see the trouble of keeping him in the game. There were constant complaints about him being essentially a weaker (overall) version of Marth. Since they had a new Fire Emblem hero to add in, and one who had a signature move that they could incorporate into his Final Smash and Up-B, I can understand the choice of Ike over Roy.

Are people going to be upset? Yes (although anyone upset about Doc leaving deserves to be upset, IMO). Will I miss some of the characters who are gone? Certainly. Do I think that some of them should have been put in instead of some of the newer characters? Yes. Does that mean that I should whine and complain and try to ruin the fun for the people who have been begging for these characters to join up for years? Heck, no.

Kirbys one of the worst characters in the game. Predictable recovery, terrible range, awful prioity, grabs that you can BREAK out if mid animation, weak projectile, and is killed easily...hes not even close to good in melee.

Ruin your fun? lol please im venting. I never said the game was gonna suck and i had no inention of "ruining" anyones fun im just saying pepole have a right to be upset with the final roster. And they do and most are. Does this mean brawl will be any less cool? As you put it so gently "HECK NO" the good faaaaaar out ways the bad in this situation.

Im still rooting for krystal being the game though. Im just that stubron

Root all you want. I have absolutely no trouble with people rooting for their own characters. There's plenty of characters I'm still rooting for even though the chances of more characters being in the game is so slim as to be non-existent. Rooting for more than what is there right now is why this game has reached the incredibly high mark that it is at already. And it's fine to miss things that aren't in the game, I just don't think anyone should complain about things being added.

Some of Kirby's throws can be broken, but they are all fairly powerful. He's also got decent Smash power, good recovery (sorry, most recoverys are "predictable", as you put it, and Kirby's has good range and some ways to keep people guessing), fast normal attacks, and one hell of a versatile move selection. Yeah, the star projectile may suck, but when you eat Samus, Mewtwo, Fox, Falco, Link, Young Link, etcetera, you get access to some of the game's higher power and more fun projectiles. He's extremely well rounded, and, while he may not be perfect he is still one very useful little puffball.

Anyway, I'm liking the way the site's going now. I'm going to do my best to stop watching these insanely fun spoiler vids and pics, and just keep track of the main site. I probably won't succeed, but I'll make the effort.

[Monol]

Yeah, seriously. It might not be big for, say, an encyclopedia of Nintendo, but that's what trophies are for. This is a fighting game we're talking about here. Besides, how much could they really change the characters from Game 2 to Game 3 without slapping people who played Game 2 in the face about their mains?

What about game 1 to game 2? They didnt care then certainly (kirby went from top tier to garbage tier along with ness and yoshi) and what about roy, doc, and pichu mains? Its a different game after all so pepole should accept that in that regard.

35 characters for a fighting game based on the biggest video game company on the planet on a dual layered disk?! Im gonna have to disagree but i supose to each its own

Kirby is hardly "garbage tier". He may not be as godly as he was in the original, but he is still one of the best characters in the game.

Doc should never have been added. Mario already had a clone anyway, anyone who wants another is being way too picky.

Pichu was probably the single worst character in the game, and one of the least played. Combining the game's lightest character with attacks that also caused him to hurt himself was one of the strangest design choices in the game. I'm not at all surprised to see the suicidal little critter gone. Cuteness is not a substitute for a survival instinct.

As for Roy, well, I liked him, but I can see the trouble of keeping him in the game. There were constant complaints about him being essentially a weaker (overall) version of Marth. Since they had a new Fire Emblem hero to add in, and one who had a signature move that they could incorporate into his Final Smash and Up-B, I can understand the choice of Ike over Roy.

Are people going to be upset? Yes (although anyone upset about Doc leaving deserves to be upset, IMO). Will I miss some of the characters who are gone? Certainly. Do I think that some of them should have been put in instead of some of the newer characters? Yes. Does that mean that I should whine and complain and try to ruin the fun for the people who have been begging for these characters to join up for years? Heck, no.

Kirbys one of the worst characters in the game. Predictable recovery, terrible range, awful prioity, grabs that you can BREAK out if mid animation, weak projectile, and is killed easily...hes not even close to good in melee.

Ruin your fun? lol please im venting. I never said the game was gonna suck and i had no inention of "ruining" anyones fun im just saying pepole have a right to be upset with the final roster. And they do and most are. Does this mean brawl will be any less cool? As you put it so gently "HECK NO" the good faaaaaar out ways the bad in this situation.

Im still rooting for krystal being the game though. Im just that stubron

Root all you want. I have absolutely no trouble with people rooting for their own characters. There's plenty of characters I'm still rooting for even though the chances of more characters being in the game is so slim as to be non-existent. Rooting for more than what is there right now is why this game has reached the incredibly high mark that it is at already. And it's fine to miss things that aren't in the game, I just don't think anyone should complain about things being added.

Some of Kirby's throws can be broken, but they are all fairly powerful. He's also got decent Smash power, good recovery (sorry, most recoverys are "predictable", as you put it, and Kirby's has good range and some ways to keep people guessing), fast normal attacks, and one hell of a versatile move selection. Yeah, the star projectile may suck, but when you eat Samus, Mewtwo, Fox, Falco, Link, Young Link, etcetera, you get access to some of the game's higher power and more fun projectiles. He's extremely well rounded, and, while he may not be perfect he is still one very useful little puffball.

Anyway, I'm liking the way the site's going now. I'm going to do my best to stop watching these insanely fun spoiler vids and pics, and just keep track of the main site. I probably won't succeed, but I'll make the effort.

Wow this is piling on nicely. Two of kirbys throws can be broken. His up throw and down throw are the only guranteed throws. Throws arent useful because of their "power" there used to set up for combos or chain grabs. Kirbys down throw can easily be punished by floatier characters (like luigi...grr) with a neutral air. Kirbys up throw sets up for up air combos but thats it and that can EASILY be DI'ed out of. When i say predictable i mean "easy" to edgeguard. Kirby lags after each jump so its not hard to predict where hes gonna go and what hes gonna do (If he goes for a swallowcide you simply wait because hes gonna lose vertical plus he doesnt go far with each jump). With marth and roys recovery they can at least delay theres at set intervals with their over b's. Dk at least has knock back on his and good horizontal recovery. Mario and doc can fire ball and pill spam to intimidate edge guarders. Even pichu can hug ledges with his up b. His "fast" attacks as i said before have NO priority and power so there meaningless unless for juggles. Watch competitive kirbys, they abuse no b attacks. Why? Because if they miss the swallow they can be punished and even if they do get the move they lose after about 2-3 hits anyways. Versitle? This i wont argue...but none of his moves are all that useful. His hammer blows (to laggy) and his down b is predictable if used offensivly and can easily be punished with a grab. But he is a fun little dude (mewtwo kirby is the bomb...to bad we'll never see him again ((or will we? muhahaha)) )

Nice to see your dedication to avoid spoilers. I know i couldnt do it
Good luck

[Skyblade]

The quote pyramid is unneeded and cumbersome, so I won't continue it.

We will have Lucario Kirby instead of Mewtwo Kirby, since Lucario seems to have inherited Mewtwo's Shadow Ball. Sure, it's technically a different move, but it has the same gameplay, from what I've seen. So we won't lose much.

I agree that Kirby's forward and backward throws are largely useless (unless you are really good with your timing, in which case any of his throws are very dangerous), but his up and down throws have plenty of uses.

Kirby's recoveries are only easy to edgeguard if you have an unimaginative Kirby player. His aerial attacks and up and down B moves make him a lot harder to edgeguard. Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion, but I still feel that Kirby is one of the best characters in the game. That's all I'll say about him, since we're supposed to be talking about Brawl, not arguing about Kirby's awesomeness.

Anyway, the only thing I've seen about this game that I haven't liked is the repetition of Final Smashes. Everything else, the more I see, the happier I get. This game has a huge lineup of characters, stages, items, and game modes. Sure, there are some things that had to be trimmed down. We don't get Target Tests built for each character anymore, we don't get all of the characters from the last game, we don't get all the old stages. But it is so worth it.

[ljkkjlcm9]

who was it that wanted Krystal? Here


anyways, I guess no one is paying attention to the smash Dojo anymore, but they're going to start revealing the secrets, probably how to unlock them, and with the characters, probably their movesets.

THE JACKEL

[Skyblade]

anyways, I guess no one is paying attention to the smash Dojo anymore, but they're going to start revealing the secrets, probably how to unlock them, and with the characters, probably their movesets.

THE JACKAL

First thing I check every day. I'm just going to try to limit myself to only seeing the secrets that the Dojo reveals. So you guys will probably find out neato stuff before I do.

[Monol]

Kirby stinks to high heaven! But your entitled to your opinion as well so we'll leave it at that. Fun debate though i supose. Nice to see you know at least something about what your talking about.



............................I was the krystal wanter...


GRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY WHY WHY!!!!
WAAAGH!!!

Ok new gameplan...im gonna keep telling myself that the delay for americans is longer because sakuri is swapping wolf for krystal lol
im in sever denial yall! Watch out!

(And if i comes to it ill main that uhh...picture thingy if i have too!!!) *shakes fist to the heavens* Damn you sakuri !! Thanks for all the other sweet stuff (arenas and music especially) but dammn you!!!

[ljkkjlcm9]

ZERO SUIT SAMUS is playable as a starter/independant character!

Selecting Zero Suit Samus
To use Zero Suit Samus at the start of a match, select Samus on the character screen and hold the following button before the match starts with the corresponding controller that is being used:

Gamecube/Classic controller: Hold the R button
Wii Remote with Nunchuk: Hold the Z button
Wii Remote: Hold the Minus (-) button

THE JACKEL

[.:kerrod:.]

Kirby is awesome and you all just BE QUIET! I stand by the fact that people may not like him because they're not particularly good with him...which is what i believe with all characters, at the end of the day, it's how well you can use them, and if they're your favourite 'personality' character, then they're bound to become your favourite (and best) fighting character. Not many people liked Mewtwo because he was hard to use, but he was my main and i loved him...so yeah, it just depends.

Kirby stinks to high heaven! But your entitled to your opinion as well so we'll leave it at that. Fun debate though i supose. Nice to see you know at least something about what your talking about.

It IS nice to see somebody who knows what they're talking about, but please, don't insult Kirby more by putting him down WITH bad spelling I know, that's harsh, but honestly, if you're trying to say 'you are' it's "you're", and if you're trying to give ownership, it's "your"...this has got to be the thing that annoys me most with misspellings (along with 'their', 'there', and 'they're') and im sorry to bring that up, i know that's not what this thread is about

ZERO SUIT SAMUS is playable as a starter/independant character!

Selecting Zero Suit Samus
To use Zero Suit Samus at the start of a match, select Samus on the character screen and hold the following button before the match starts with the corresponding controller that is being used:

Gamecube/Classic controller: Hold the R button
Wii Remote with Nunchuk: Hold the Z button
Wii Remote: Hold the Minus (-) button

THE JACKAL

Although this is a good feature, i think i'd start off with normal Samus anyway, i mean, Zero Suit Samus' final smash is to get a normal Samus suit...LAME...this wouldnt be as bad if you'd already used one final smash...but honestly, it's a waste...

[Markus. D]

Youre all gonna hate me for this but I cant help it

YouTube - Super Smash Bros Brawl Gameplay Video 28

marths final smash total fire emblem 3 refrence.

<3

Also, I guess I've already spoiled it all for myself.


R.O.B ftw.

[.:kerrod:.]

yeah, im really looking forward to seeing what R.O.B. can do, so if anybody finds a video, post away

EDIT: found one (SPOILER)it also had game and watch's final smash

[Roto13]

Apparently Ness is to Lucas as Falco is to Fox. :P

Smash Bros. DOJO!!

[ljkkjlcm9]

ZERO SUIT SAMUS is playable as a starter/independant character!

Selecting Zero Suit Samus
To use Zero Suit Samus at the start of a match, select Samus on the character screen and hold the following button before the match starts with the corresponding controller that is being used:

Gamecube/Classic controller: Hold the R button
Wii Remote with Nunchuk: Hold the Z button
Wii Remote: Hold the Minus (-) button

THE JACKAL

Although this is a good feature, i think i'd start off with normal Samus anyway, i mean, Zero Suit Samus' final smash is to get a normal Samus suit...LAME...this wouldnt be as bad if you'd already used one final smash...but honestly, it's a waste...

except sometimes smash balls are turned off, player's choice of course. Not only that, but Zero Suit Samus plays very different from the Samus with her suit.

As for Ness, that's extremely easy to unlock. I have a good feeling most characters are very easy to unlock, at least the ones that were in the old games.

THE JACKEL

[Roto13]

I'm betting ROB might be a bit tricky to unlock. He was a pain in the ass in Mario Kart DS. :P

[Monol]

It IS nice to see somebody who knows what they're talking about, but please, don't insult Kirby more by putting him down WITH bad spelling I know, that's harsh, but honestly, if you're trying to say 'you are' it's "you're", and if you're trying to give ownership, it's "your"...this has got to be the thing that annoys me most with misspellings (along with 'their', 'there', and 'they're') and im sorry to bring that up, i know that's not what this thread is about

lol och u bige meeneey!!! But seriously im done with the kirby bashing. Hes had enough and he actually looks pretty rockin in brawl (wish i could say the same about mewtwo... cool that your a mewtwo main though *salutes* )

Im actually really impressed with ness's differences in regards to lucas. I just might pick up ness again after all. Game and watch looks awsome! Anyone else notice it looks like you can float with his parachute this time?! R.O.B is uhh....uhh... a very cool joke character

Oh and jiggs offically has the scariest final smash *shudders in fear*

[ljkkjlcm9]

YouTube - Super Smash Bros Brawl Gameplay Video 60 (FINAL SMASH)

every person's final smash

THE JACKEL