Mafia IX: Ace Edition Game Over - Mafia Victory - Town of Failure Destroyed

[[M] Mom – Host]

Alright, so I have to go to bed early because I have to get up tomorrow morning and do something so this will be my last vote count for a while. Lekana doesn't do votecounts cause she blows at them. I don't know when I'll be back online, but it should hopefully be before the end of the day. xP

[5]	[M] Ema Skye:	[M] Wesley Stickler	[M] Phoenix Wright	[M] Dick Gumshoe
		[M] Miles Edgeworth	[M] Bikini	[M] Franziska von Karma
[2]	[M] Miles Edgeworth:	[M] Dick Gumshoe	[M] Valant Gramarye	[M] Miles Edgeworth
		[M] Bikini
[2]	[M] Dick Gumshoe:	[M] Miles Edgeworth	[M] Damon Gant
[0]	[M] Maya Fey:	[M] Franziska von Karma
[0]	[M] Will Powers:	[M] Phoenix Wright	[M] Franziska von Karma	[M] Valant Gramarye

[[M] Adama]

@Miles: Can I be your lucky lady tonight?

Oh Franny, you already were on nights 1 and 3.

Night 5 is almost here...it's been too long...I CAN'T BE WITHOUT YOU ANY LONGER

The only reason I have to NOT find Emma suspicious is the fact that Will was so hesitant to answer questions, but that's even a minor thing. He was probably just up from the computer. Emma is more suspicious because she was so quick to jump on Will like that.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

You know, for a lot of people suspecting Will more so of the 2 "Role Blockers", no one sure is voting for him.

Either the arguments I brought on Ema were that persuasive (doubtful) or I completely missed something in my deducing.

In either case Phoenix and Fran (sigh why are all the sexy girls so evil and suspicious ) both swapped votes from Will to Ema.

Can I ask you both why?

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Blah Fran beat me to it.

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

I don't get why Will (if he was mafia) would do something like that to get Plum lynched, or why Emma (if she was mafia) would do something like that to get Will lynched. Either way, it's really not worth it.

So yeah that's why I don't see this as a black-and-white one is scum and the other is not issue.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

The way I see it, if Will were mafia doing it, he would be trying to prove he was the role blocker and thus make it appear as if he were a confirmed townie. However the big fault in that plan would namely be it being a risk, and the fact that the mafia thus far haven't had to do it. Why do a risk when you already have a perfect victory ahead of you?

As far as Ema doing it, it could be mafia trying to get the role blocker and prove a mafia as a role blocker and thus confirmed townie in one fell swoop.

Although the Lyncher/Lynchee is starting to sound a bit more plausible. I'm still just nervous with how the voting has been going thus far. I just can't help but get this feeling in the back of my head that the mafia are just sitting back on this one again.

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

The Will thing is pretty much what I thought, although I do think there are better roles to confirm yourself with.

As for Emma, if she got Will lynched, it wouldn't prove her as a roleblocker - it would prove her as mafia for getting the real roleblocker lynched, because we'd see how Will flips. But honestly, why sacrifice yourself to take out the roleblocker? A cop, a doctor, sure, that could be worth it, but not a roleblocker of all things. Especially when roleblockers aren't likely to be protected at night. If you're that desperate for one to be killed, you could always wait until then.

[[M] Adama]

*headdesk*

Wrong account, chicka.

For lyncher/lynchee...If I remember correctly, it's the lyncher's job to try and get the lynchee lynched, no matter what. The lynchee is supposed to prevent their own lynching.

Someone else can explain if I'm wrong, but I'll try and look it up.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

To Edgey~ I found Ema and Will to be equally suspicious. I decided to trust Lam's results and changed my vote to Ema. Also I didn't like how she said a couple of things about me being inactive, it hurt my feelings!


...and yes, it's also influenced by other players opinions if you were all wondering

[[M] Adama]

I was wrong. The Lynchee has no idea that they're the lynchee, but if the lyncher is killed before they have the chance to get the lynchee killed, he loses. If he gets the lynchee killed before his death, he wins. The lyncher has no alignment but the lynchee is pro-town.

This is plausible because Emma was totally rough on Will, and Will showed up as being innocent when investigated by Lamiroir.

What I think is going on:
She called out the same roll he did because she knew he was under scrutiny already, and it was the perfect opportunity to get people to vote to lynch him. If she called roleblocker too, because she wasn't as suspicious as he is, everyone would immediately turn to Will with questions. As soon as everyone began to fire questions, she quietly slipped away, and hasn't been back since. Will has, I believe.

It's just too obvious to me, now that I think about it.

[[M] Adama]

Emma has constantly been urging us to vote Will. Just thought I'd add that to my "What I think" section.

[[M] Aaron]

Has Will been back?

That's the only thing I'm not quite sure of, but the rest of that actually makes a good bit of sense. When do we have to vote by?

[[M] Adama]

The end of the day, which will probably be sometime tomorrow.

[[M] Gaius]

She doesn't vote for anyone on Day One, Day Three, or Day Four. Seriously what the heck is that all about?

For some reason, I can't vote until someone is clearly in the lead in and will definitely be lynched. Theoretically, it's extremely easy for me to vote, only my timing has been off. The days have usually ended before I get a chance to check in and see if someone is leading in the votes. It's no fault of the judges, they've even given me helpful 'pings' to tell me to check the thread, but a lot of the time I'm not around.

As for my personal thoughts. Generally, Will and Ema are both equally suspicious. However, if Gumshoe actually is a Hider, I think Will might have actually targetted Gumshoe when he was 'hiding' behind Jean. And with Lamiroir's innocent verdict of him, he could very well be the Godfather. For that reason, Will is more suspicious to me. Or Gumshoe, for the possible fabrication of his story as a mafia trying to get a townie killed. But I think if he was Mafia trying to get Will lynched...more people (his Mafia allies) would have supported Gumshoe's story.

[[M] Apollo]

This is my problem. There are certain roleclaims that are good for mafia, Certain ones that aren't.

Will's would be. He can be wrong, but if Plum turns out to be a SK then the town trusts him. Or if the mafia has a Janitor, Framer, or anything like that, then the mafia is still in control. Will's expression as "investigate me" also made me weary. Unfortunately our Cop fell for it.

Ema's doesn't because it throws her in a 50/50 chance. The mafia HAS to use a Janitor to save her. Why sacrifice yourself for a roleblocker? Better yet, since the Cop hadn't yet claimed, why claim as a roleblocker? Why not just claim as a cop or a tracker? Thats what I would've done.

If Ema was mafia, that claim makes no sense to make, they gain NOTHING.