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    I don't know if thats a good thing or bad thing. I'll stick with the other JRPG's if it's Nomura's character design's that make FF what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raebus View Post
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    I don't know if thats a good thing or bad thing. I'll stick with the other JRPG's if it's Nomura's character design's that make FF what they are.
    Exactly.
    Whos in charge of the story btw? I hope its not Nomura as well. Kitase is miles better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroths Clone View Post
    I think Nomura's character designs are one of the few things that make an FF game FF...without it it looks like any other JRPG...
    Never mind the fact that 75% of the main titles in the series utilized a different character designer. Nomura defines Final Fantasy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin IV View Post
    I'm wondering the same thing. Why would you go to G4? For anything? Ever?

    haha... priceless.

    I love how we have seen like all of the stuff in this trailer. The few new parts were nice.. but... why not give us something ENTIRELY new?
    Come on, Square. I love you! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshin IV View Post
    I'm wondering the same thing. Why would you go to G4? For anything? Ever?
    I followed a link to G4 for the Microsoft press conference stream and thought, "Why not go into the chatroom while I'm here?"


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    The game's looking visually amazing, but I'm still not that worked up over it. The character designs are re-hashes of what we've seen before, and the combat seems to be trying to emulate all the fantastical acrobatics seen in any recent science-fantasy gunfest.
    Still, the landscapes are pretty. They're definitely going a step further than earlier games when it comes to blending technology and magic... summons that appear out of magic DVDs? The concepts have potential.

    Also: Star Wars didn't invent the concept of stormtroopers. Those weirdoes in the trailer with the ridiculous uniforms seem to have helmets modeled on hockey masks more than anything else.

    It's odd... the PS3 gives them the best opportunity to create a real, believable fantasy world - but instead they're making it pretty while detracting from the realism. I'm just not interested in heroes who never break and sweat and never get injured, or whose clothing and armour has no bearing at all on their movement or defence. In future, they really ought to consult an expert or two who knows about modern weaponry and tactics, and historical weaponry and tactics. Armour and technique, and the appropriate use of each, can make a huge difference when you're trying to construct a realistic setting. Sure, teenage boys probably like the sight of a bikini-clad girl leaping through the air upside down while shooting up army tanks with handguns, but that basically fails as anything more than sensory porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    The game's looking visually amazing, but I'm still not that worked up over it. The character designs are re-hashes of what we've seen before, and the combat seems to be trying to emulate all the fantastical acrobatics seen in any recent science-fantasy gunfest.
    Well Lightning was asked to be designed like Cloud with a vagina... (Maybe not that crudely, but that's what was asked.)

    I'm just glad it isn't yet another male protagonist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croyles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Raebus View Post
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    I don't know if thats a good thing or bad thing. I'll stick with the other JRPG's if it's Nomura's character design's that make FF what they are.
    Exactly.
    Whos in charge of the story btw? I hope its not Nomura as well. Kitase is miles better.
    I'm not sure if it's announced yet. The traditional scenario writer for the main Final Fantasy games is often Kazushige Nojima(VII, VIII, X, X-2, VII:BC, VII:AC, VIIoC, etc), so he could return. But it could also be the producer Yoshinori Kitase(V, VI, VII, etc), but this is less likely. It could also be director Motomu Toriyama(XII:RW, etc), who for some reason is listed as the scenario writer on the Wikipedia page. There is no source for this that I found.

    Some places say it's Toriyama and some say it's Nojima. Another place says that Nojima wrote the base mythology and background for all the Fabula Nova Crystallis games and that each specific game will have stories written by their directors. Final Fantasy XIII is directed by Motomu Toriyama who has recent writing experience, so this could make sense for that game. Final Fantasy Versus XIII is directed by Tetsuya Nomura, who has no official writing experience I know of(although maybe he had input but wasn't ever a scenario writer), so this may not make sense for that game. Final Fantasy Agito XIII is being directed by Hajime Tabata, who doesn't have scenario writer experience that I know of. His two released games are FF VII: BC and FF VII: CC, both by Kazushige Nojima. He has Final Fantasy Agito XIII and two other upcoming games. Those are Kingdom Hearts: Coded(unknown scenario writer I know of), and The 3rd Birthday(directed by Motomu Toriyama).

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    Oh no maybe I should be thankful I forgot my headphones today when I watched it lol.

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    Wow, it's like they combined Star Wars with something from every other game.

    For some reason all the flying ship things SCREAM FFVIII to me. While the "storm troopers" SHOULD scream Star Wars they scream FFVI because of the trooper steam punk setting... which.. FFVI ironicaly screamed Star Wars at times.. because of the imperial troopers.. storm troopers.


    Just by looking at the trailer, I have NO FREAKING IDEA what the plot could be. All those pretty places are really nice to look at but for some reason I can't imagine them all being on the same planet.

    Eh, I dunno, I still don't plan on getting this. It looks pretty, but that's it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    It's odd... the PS3 gives them the best opportunity to create a real, believable fantasy world - but instead they're making it pretty while detracting from the realism. I'm just not interested in heroes who never break and sweat and never get injured, or whose clothing and armour has no bearing at all on their movement or defence. In future, they really ought to consult an expert or two who knows about modern weaponry and tactics, and historical weaponry and tactics. Armour and technique, and the appropriate use of each, can make a huge difference when you're trying to construct a realistic setting. Sure, teenage boys probably like the sight of a bikini-clad girl leaping through the air upside down while shooting up army tanks with handguns, but that basically fails as anything more than sensory porn.
    I agree. Personally I like the simple clothing designs we got from FFVI and down. Somehow random metal, belts, and lack of clothes seemed to have made their way into the designs FFVII and up. Looking at things logically, casts from FFVI and down would prolly have a better chance of lasting in a battle solely because of their clothes, I can't imagine someone being able to fight with 13 belts on their arm, or scarves flying everywhere, or giant metal boots, and not only that, the one wearing giant metal boots is the theif for some reason!

    Maybe that's why I've been turned off from FF for a while now, it's becoming annoyingly unrealistic. With FFXII I couldn't get my mind past how Ashe was a fighter and only had random plate armor. I can only imagine the kind of wounds she would have really been recieving with such a lack of clothes. I also couldn't imagine her dodging that well because her boots are freaking metal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarice-ness View Post
    Wow, it's like they combined Star Wars with something from every other game.

    For some reason all the flying ship things SCREAM FFVIII to me. While the "storm troopers" SHOULD scream Star Wars they scream FFVI because of the trooper steam punk setting... which.. FFVI ironicaly screamed Star Wars at times.. because of the imperial troopers.. storm troopers.


    Just by looking at the trailer, I have NO FREAKING IDEA what the plot could be. All those pretty places are really nice to look at but for some reason I can't imagine them all being on the same planet.

    Eh, I dunno, I still don't plan on getting this. It looks pretty, but that's it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Big D View Post
    It's odd... the PS3 gives them the best opportunity to create a real, believable fantasy world - but instead they're making it pretty while detracting from the realism. I'm just not interested in heroes who never break and sweat and never get injured, or whose clothing and armour has no bearing at all on their movement or defence. In future, they really ought to consult an expert or two who knows about modern weaponry and tactics, and historical weaponry and tactics. Armour and technique, and the appropriate use of each, can make a huge difference when you're trying to construct a realistic setting. Sure, teenage boys probably like the sight of a bikini-clad girl leaping through the air upside down while shooting up army tanks with handguns, but that basically fails as anything more than sensory porn.
    I agree. Personally I like the simple clothing designs we got from FFVI and down. Somehow random metal, belts, and lack of clothes seemed to have made their way into the designs FFVII and up. Looking at things logically, casts from FFVI and down would prolly have a better chance of lasting in a battle solely because of their clothes, I can't imagine someone being able to fight with 13 belts on their arm, or scarves flying everywhere, or giant metal boots, and not only that, the one wearing giant metal boots is the theif for some reason!

    Maybe that's why I've been turned off from FF for a while now, it's becoming annoyingly unrealistic. With FFXII I couldn't get my mind past how Ashe was a fighter and only had random plate armor. I can only imagine the kind of wounds she would have really been recieving with such a lack of clothes. I also couldn't imagine her dodging that well because her boots are freaking metal.
    I don't really mind all this, final fantasy is fantasy after all. As Bob Ross once said: "anything goes in your world".

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    You can still do fantasy and still have it rooted in reality.

    The costume design for Lord of the Rings is a great example of this. The costumes were stunning in the movie, and if you've ever watched the behind the scenes footage, you can see just how much thought they put behind every element of a character's wardrobe. Everything had a purpose, every color palette had a meaning, even the type of stitching that was used was carefully considered for each character, depending on their background and culture.

    Now I don't expect Final Fantasy to put the same amount of work into costumes as a movie would, because obviously, the costumes in a game aren't meant to be wearable in real life. So things like stitching patterns mean nothing.

    But it would be nice if they considered things like, "What would someone be wearing if they were a fighter? A princess?" Rather than just trowing things together because it looks pretty or cool on paper.

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    Come back when they're working on Final Realism XIII. :P

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    Thumbs up Okay... NOW I want this!

    screw the systems it's on.... just be glad we're getting a new adventure n.n



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    Are you N1kdanbro?

    Yes, lets just enjoy the game when its out/if it ever comes out.

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