No, because FE's theories at least look like they could be plausible to anyone who hasn't played FFVIII; in his case, he is someone who reads too much into a game.
In this case, our OP is just simply wrong.
No, because FE's theories at least look like they could be plausible to anyone who hasn't played FFVIII; in his case, he is someone who reads too much into a game.
In this case, our OP is just simply wrong.
Yeah, he does. He exists in Axel. Whether or not Axel is canonically Reno's Nobody, Nomura designed him with the specific purpose of putting a familiar appearance/personality in a new role. Word of god, if you will.Originally Posted by Ouch!
Which makes me question any other "theory" you might have since as things currently stand, Reno doesn't even exist in the Kingdom Hearts universe.
I just happen to think that Axel is also the Nobody of Reno.
And that you would happen to be wrong, especially because the characters were created ten years apart? And that they don't share the same personality at all? And that all of Nomura's characters look alike? And that even if we could use the "they look the same" argument, that there's no evidence that Nomura made them to be one and the same?
I am so convinced by your powerful rhetoric that I, too, believe that Axel is Reno's Nobody. In fact, I am so convinced, that I will attest that Roxas is, in fact, not Sora's Nobody. Sora is actually the Nobody of Neku Sakuraba. My logic is flawless, and my opinions, they matter.
Troll much?And that you would happen to be wrong, especially because the characters were created ten years apart? And that they don't share the same personality at all? And that all of Nomura's characters look alike? And that even if we could use the "they look the same" argument, that there's no evidence that Nomura made them to be one and the same?
I am so convinced by your powerful rhetoric that I, too, believe that Axel is Reno's Nobody. In fact, I am so convinced, that I will attest that Roxas is, in fact, not Sora's Nobody. Sora is actually the Nobody of Neku Sakuraba. My logic is flawless, and my opinions, they matter.
And read the last paragraph. Console Games (Nintendo, Sony etc.) and Arcade Games: Reno-Axel connection., ff7 advent children, tetsuya nomura
The P actually debunks you. The "word of God" says that they are different, and he further supports it by saying that their roles are different in each world.
He says they're different and in different roles, but Axel was CONSCIOUSLY modeled after Reno. His last sentence is exactly what I was saying in different words. Anyway, I'm dropping the subject.The P actually debunks you. The "word of God" says that they are different, and he further supports it by saying that their roles are different in each world.
This guy can't be serious... Am I the only one who thinkss that the whole Goofy-Xion and Reno-Axel thing is just an innocent little joke?
The Goofy Xion thing was, but I'm dead serious when I say I believe (key word) that Axel is Reno's nobody. Why is that so hard to accept?
I'm sorry to say this, but I have to agree with Tavrobel. Nomura himself said that it's untrue. The conection he mentions is stricly conceptual and has nothing to do with Axel being Reno's nobody. They just share a similar concept. Axel is Axel and Reno is Reno.
Using one character as a source of inspiration for another does not suggest a stronger link between the two. Your "evidence" does not support your argument.
My God. I'm not trying to argue anything. I don't give a flyingUsing one character as a source of inspiration for another does not suggest a stronger link between the two. Your "evidence" does not support your argument.what the rest of you think. I'm entitled to my beliefs and my own interpretation to Nomura's remarks. Can we just get back to talking about Xion? If you feel like you have to keep on belittling my beliefs of this game, kindly start your own thread, or get on AIM and talk about how stupid I am or whatever. Just keep it out of this thread.
In the same way that you're entitled to your beliefs, we are also entitled to criticize beliefs unsupported by any evidence. Your interpretation of Nomura's remarks aren't even an issue of debate as far as I'm concerned: he suggested they were created from a similar inspiration, but they are, as Nomura explicitly stated "completely different characters." As of yet, Reno does not even exist in the Kingdom Hearts continuum.My God. I'm not trying to argue anything. I don't give a flyingUsing one character as a source of inspiration for another does not suggest a stronger link between the two. Your "evidence" does not support your argument.
Let me put it this way. Let's liken Nomura to a writer/director of a movie screenplay, like, I don't know... Kevin Smith (of Dogma and Clerks fame). Now let's take an actor who tends to reappear in Smith's movies: Ben Affleck. In each movie, Affleck plays a different character. The characters usually tend to be insufferable assholes. They look alike. They have similar personalities. Smith certainly likes Affleck enough to reuse him. Would you suggest that Affleck's role as Bartleby in Dogma is the same as his role as the asshole in Mallrats? That they are inextricably related? No. It'd be ridiculous, because they're two separate characters entirely. You're trying to make such a comparison with Reno to Axel, and it's equally ridiculous. You're allowed to have beliefs, but we're allowed to criticize them for being something only explicable through wild, baseless speculation (such as fan fiction).
You opened up the topic of Axel/Reno in this thread as more than anecdotal evidence. You can't just fall back and end the conversation when you can't defend yourself with anything concrete. This isn't a personal attack on your intelligence; it's an attack on your suggestion that there could be any validity to an Axel/Reno theory beyond wild imaginings.
That aside, there's not much we can say about Xion other than that she looks remarkably like a dark-haired Kairi (and given Nomura's tendency to recycle character designs, it's always hard to tell whether or not such a thing is intentional). I still think it would make more sense to have her relate somehow to Aqua, though.
I remember once seeing a scan with a screenshot of Xion and a render of Aqua next to that and they looked pretty mushc the same. Xion even seemed to have blue hair there...
In earlier pictures, Xion's hair did seem much more blue or purple, but now that we're getting pictures of her face, it looks black. KHInsider had a translation of a few scenes featuring Xion. Seems she's just as confused about her origins as we are.
http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Im...5014_0_big.jpg
When I look at this picture of Roxas, Axel, and Xion, it looks like they are really good friends and reminds me of Sora, Riku, and Kairi. I'm not suggesting anything more than that.
By the way, sorry about metioning the whole Axel/Reno thing. Only meant it as a joke.
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