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    Not a bad theory; I could see it being true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Mullet View Post
    My wife read a theory somewhere that Kate is pregnant with Jack's baby, thus recreating Claire's pregnancy on the flight. Since Kate and Jack "landed" on the island in the 70s, the theory suggests that Kate has the baby while in that time and we know/knew the baby as an adult "Other" in the present time.
    Richard Alpert?

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    I think Richard is some immortal manifestation of the island, as he's appeared the same age from the 1950's through present time, but you never know.
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    More interesting theories from the asoiaf board
    Quote Originally Posted by Raidne [url="http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?s=&showtopic=34015&view=findpost&p=1702651"
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    I'm thinking Faraday is going to warn young Ben about the island and it's properties - probably something to do with warning him that should some things happen at the island (like a nuclear explosion) there would be a rip in the space/time continuum that would, as Hawking said, kill us all. Probably Jughead has something to do with the hatch, and probably Desmond hitting the failsafe kept it from going happening.

    Maybe the island should normally be able to move through space/time (or normally just space?) using the wheel, but because the O6 had left, it now has some kind of constant problem that will hopefully be restored shortly after the return of the O6 to the island, although possibly the wheel has to be turned yet another time - maybe by Widmore?

    Who knows? Because of the Locke/Bentham dichotomy we got last week, I have to think that both Ben and Widmore are both aiming at some greater good, and think that the good that they are trying to create justifies the means they are using, since Bentham is famous for inventing Utilitarianism. This approach has it's advantages, but often the people acting this way lose site of the good that they were aiming at, and take ever more drastic steps ever more removed from that goal, and eventually see keeping themselves in control as the most important thing. I have no idea what they're after - maybe Widmore wants to use the island-as-time-machine to try and improve the state of humanity, and Ben - as told by Faraday - understands that this would destroy the world? I really couldn't say. I do think, though, that they are clearly after something more than their own control of the island, something that justifies everything they've done.

    Locke, OTOH, is named after John Locke, a natural law theorist - people who never see the ends as justifying the means. The advantage is that these people hardly ever become immoral in their means in their quest toward the greater good, but often sacrifice the chance to ever reach that end because of their inability or unwillingness to use whatever means necessary. Locke's just too much of a good person to understand who's playing him, and why, and what to do about it. He's very easily manipulated. I don't think it's a writing flaw, I think it must be intentional.

    I have no idea where this is ultimately going, but it looks like they're setting up a big thematic paradox/moral dilemma for the next season, and I would guess that Locke is still the sacrifice. And that Ben and Widmore will destroy each other. And that the Island will get what it needs (that is, Jack, to be Jacob) in the end.

    Also, I now think the cave people really might be Rose and Bernard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Mullet View Post
    I think Richard is some immortal manifestation of the island, as he's appeared the same age from the 1950's through present time, but you never know.
    Yeah, that's what I think too ... although, by KatexJack+Baby theory I think it could be him. He could be hoppin around through time n' all.

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    The reason Richard is ageless seems pretty obvious. I mean he probably can't age in a time where he hasn't been born so he can't age till he catches up with his real timeline.

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    Either that or he's just undead like Christian and now Locke are.
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    OK, seriously:

    Where the hell are Rose and Bernard?

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    smurf knows. My crackpot theory is that they're the people who become Adam and Eve, which, if true, probably means that it'll be awhile until we know for certain.

    Two weeks until the next episode. FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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    After seeing the statue and rewinding and pausing to get a closer look, my wife and I decided that it looked like an Egyptian god from the back. Now I'm wondering if the island "lived" in the Mediterranean during ancient Egyptian times and was moved at some point. When the Oceanic 6 watched it "move", it looked like it sank, and this could be the show's explanation of where the Atlantis legend comes form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Mullet View Post
    After seeing the statue and rewinding and pausing to get a closer look, my wife and I decided that it looked like an Egyptian god from the back. Now I'm wondering if the island "lived" in the Mediterranean during ancient Egyptian times and was moved at some point. When the Oceanic 6 watched it "move", it looked like it sank, and this could be the show's explanation of where the Atlantis legend comes form.
    Definitely an Egyptian God. It was just one of the many Egyptian symbols that we got from this episode (and others). The statue is holding ankhs in each hand, and Paul had the ankh, as well. We also have the prominence of Horace (Horus). Remember the timer in the hatch went to hieroglyphics after it hit 0 in Season 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirobaito View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Mullet View Post
    After seeing the statue and rewinding and pausing to get a closer look, my wife and I decided that it looked like an Egyptian god from the back. Now I'm wondering if the island "lived" in the Mediterranean during ancient Egyptian times and was moved at some point. When the Oceanic 6 watched it "move", it looked like it sank, and this could be the show's explanation of where the Atlantis legend comes form.
    Definitely an Egyptian God. It was just one of the many Egyptian symbols that we got from this episode (and others). The statue is holding ankhs in each hand, and Paul had the ankh, as well. We also have the prominence of Horace (Horus). Remember the timer in the hatch went to hieroglyphics after it hit 0 in Season 2.
    The temple of the smoke monster was also covered in Egyptian hieroglyphics.

    Overall I enjoyed that episode, especially Sawyer and Alpert's interaction. I love how Richard Alpert is totally just running into people all over time who are like "yeaaaaah, so uh I'm from the future."

    So the Hostiles and Dharma had a truce? I wonder what actually broke it, if anything, to cause Alpert to seek Ben to cause the Purge.

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    SAWYERxJULIET FTW.

    edit: Oh, and a baby was born on the Island! Sawyer told Juliet that whatever caused the baby deaths may not have happened yet - maybe it was something that Dharma did that caused the baby dying?

    edit again: And Charlotte is alive again! But a child. So obviously Dan is going to threaten her not to return to the Island and fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Rabbits View Post
    So obviously Dan is going to threaten her not to return to the Island and fail.
    Absolutely. I figured that was a given when she told him that she recognized him as that scary man who told her to stay away from the island as she was dying. Plus the season premier showed Faraday on the island working with Dharma during the 70's, so it wasn't so much "if" as "how".
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    What if the baby is Jacob? Jacob is special apparently since he was born but shouldn't have been presumably (Amy was supposed to die?). And Horace is shown building Jacob's cabin...maybe they see that their son is something else and needed to lock him away or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McLovin' View Post
    What if the baby is Jacob? Jacob is special apparently since he was born but shouldn't have been presumably (Amy was supposed to die?). And Horace is shown building Jacob's cabin...maybe they see that their son is something else and needed to lock him away or something.
    Doubtful. In 1954, Locke tells Richard that "Jacob sent me," and that got Richard to listen. Jacob is already known by that time, so unless we have more time travel, Jacob is far older than that little boy.

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