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Compared to Squall or Seifer, Cid doesn't seem to have the qualities of a knight.
But a night he is.
But a day he isn't.

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That statement of yours is a bit hinting at R=U right there. Squall killing Rinoa in the future because of what she's about to achieve.
Instead of doing it in time to prevent the whole scheme.
And it's not 'a hint' at all. It's again an assertion of people to try and support R=U. Hints and evidence are based in facts, not grasping at straws.
Yet you called Cid Edea's knight. If I was you, I'd be saying 'Where is this evidence?'. Common sense does not equal evidence!

Cid told us that he will take 'Edea' if she takes too far. Later, he did take her down by allowing the SEEDs to dog her.
Ok, that shouldn't affect Matron. Matron seems to be okay - happy pre- ending.

Squall wants to be Rinoa's knight. Oh, why now?
And in the end, Ultimecia gets killed. Ok, that shouldn't affect anything. Rinoa seems to be okay - happy ending.

Of course, there's no evidence that these are connected. But who cares, this is a Final Fantasy game.

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It doesn't matter where they put Ellone because Ultimecia always will fail. Just like what happened with the Adel situation. After when Squall travels back to the past and informs Matron of the Garden / SEED ideas, time will be set in stone.
And because of that, Cid must allow Edea to become possessed, must allow SeeD to try and strike his wife down, they must put Ellone on a boat, etc. This explains everything that you say shows Cid didn't love Edea as them going through the motions, but none of that applies to before Squall's trip, so they were acting of their own initiative when the married.
Unless, of course, time is perfectly fixed and there is no free will and no one loves anything because it's just about what time wills.
Just like in Squall's case. At the beginning, he ignores Rinoa and being moody. Etc etc etc. Later into the game, it's becoming more apparent that his attitude's changed and starts to love Rinoa.

I think the Destiny Wall affects Rinoa more than Squall.

Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
Ultimecia is ultra powerful. If you were Ultimecia and when you roll a dice of probabilities of killing someone entirely based on your spells and circumstances, and thier surroundings, some tiny numbers will tell you that you will kill at least one person. Unfortunately, the main characters in VIII have survived without any problem.
Or maybe she's not as ultra powerful as you might think.
How is having any time magic not powerful?

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'Regular' couples have what is considered love for each other, dweller.
And Edea.
I'm talking about the couples in VIII, stop applying real life standards to VIII too much!

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Matron is the person who Squall / Co. remember fondly. A person who was kind, nice, lovely and helpful back then. These things are what the party fond of and therefore they simply call her Matron. Squall even calls Edea Matron later in the game, which proves that Squall rather calls her Matron instead of Edea. So, why should they call her Edea, instead of Matron?
"Nannie is the person who Kermit / Co. remember fondly. A person who was kind, nice, lovely and helpful back then. These things are what the muppets are fond of and therefore they simply call her Nannie. Kermit even calls her Nannie later in life, which proves that Kermit remembers her as Nannie and not anything else. So, why should they call her something other than Nannie?"
Your argument, in a nutshell.
They were kids growing up calling her by her title 'Matron', so it became ingrained. Edea is her name. Matron is her title. She would be Matron Edea Kramer.
No. If they call her Edea now, they will remember the 'Shooting at her' incident. They don't want to remember that, so they call her Matron. This is evident later into the game.

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When the party were younger, they were never told the 'Edea' word.
The first time when the party hears 'Edea', like she was some bad ass villain who wanted to rule everything.
So, if I grow up calling my best friend's mom by her surname, and only hear her given name when I grow up, her given name isn't real?
No, I didn't say that.

When you think of Edea in your head. What would she look like? That's my point...

Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
I'm talking about the real person here, Matron. Not Edea. It's easier to clear up the confusion, too.
Edea and Matron are the same person. She's Edea even well after Ultimecia has left her. She is Edea even before Ultimecia enters her, in Squall's trip to the past.
Squall calls her Matron at that point in the childhood past. He knows that Edea is her name, but he called her Matron anyway.

Of course they are the same person.

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Oh, and thanks for calling that name. I'll be sure to add it to my vocabulary, hope you don't mind.
You'd do better to add better grammar and vocabulary to your lexicon first, dweller.
Touché. It's becoming more apparent that your criticism of my English and calling me names are now part of your agruements. How illogical!

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Perhaps, destiny is what made them marry each other. If they weren't married, there may have been... more worse incidents.
Which you say based on?
If they weren't married, they would be facing the Incident like in Lost.

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Guess Ellone was wrong, then.
No, because even if you can't change the past, it's still a paradox.
So, is there something Ellone or Dr. Odine not telling us ... ?

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And let's not even talk about how much of Galbadia Edea slept with.
:rolleyes2