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But a day he isn't.
And so he is a 'Kanigget.'
And so he is a 'Tegginak.'

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Yet you called Cid Edea's knight. If I was you, I'd be saying 'Where is this evidence?'. Common sense does not equal evidence!
All Sorceresses must have knights, lest they go crazy. This is an established fact of the series. As no one else acts as her knight, it makes sense that it would be Cid. Now, it COULD be someone else, but that would be aparsimonious.
Adel had a knight? It seems that he/she failed at protecting Adel, then. Or perhaps, she didn't have a knight the whole time.

No, Seifer doesn't count.

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Cid told us that he will take 'Edea' if she takes too far. Later, he did take her down by allowing the SEEDs to dog her.
Ok, that shouldn't affect Matron. Matron seems to be okay - happy pre- ending.
Edea is Matron. There is no distinction between the two. Edea does not stop being either Matron or Edea during her possession.
And your point being? I've never once said that they are different persons.

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Squall wants to be Rinoa's knight. Oh, why now?
And in the end, Ultimecia gets killed. Ok, that shouldn't affect anything. Rinoa seems to be okay - happy ending.
So she'll be okay. So she won't have to be taken out.
Regardless of how bad the situation is.

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Of course, there's no evidence that these are connected. But who cares, this is a Final Fantasy game.
And that attitude is why you fail.
Please justify that that wasn't a personal attack. You're the one who called me undefined names- such names that are replaced with actual swearing words to escape the forum's rules.

We are arguing about VIII, not about ourselves. You have just proved how illogical your statement really is.

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Just like in Squall's case. At the beginning, he ignores Rinoa and being moody. Etc etc etc. Later into the game, it's becoming more apparent that his attitude's changed and starts to love Rinoa.

I think the Destiny Wall affects Rinoa more than Squall.
So, Squall is the one whose opinion changes, yet Rinoa is more affected.
Because Squall is the main character. If he keeps the same due to destiny, that would be boring.

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And how does this prove Cid doesn't love Edea? Because if destiny forced them to get married, it could and would make sure they loved each other too.
Of course, destiny can't just make them marry each other and have Cid act like 'What's happening!?'

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How is having any time magic not powerful?
ANY time magic? JME is not her magic. Time compression required JME and the original ellone to cast. It was her attempt to gain more power.
No, I'm talking about her own spells. So, how are her spells not powerful? For example, her manifiesting ability.

Sure, these aren't powerful in terms of destiny, but ...

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I'm talking about the couples in VIII, stop applying real life standards to VIII too much!
And that is why you fail. FFVIII only makes sense through the lens of the real world we compare it to.
Some, but not all. Also, :rolleyes2:rolleyes2.

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No. If they call her Edea now, they will remember the 'Shooting at her' incident. They don't want to remember that, so they call her Matron. This is evident later into the game.
They call her Matron because they called her that their entire life. This does not mean her name is not Edea, as she is referred to at all times by the game, her stat block, the Ultimania, etc.
Again, this is like saying I called someone whose real name is Katherine 'Gaga' growing up, and if I still call her 'Gaga', her name is not Katherine.
No. They call her Matron simply because of thier memories in the past. It doesn't make Matron any different than Edea. I'm calling her Matron because I'm sided with the party.

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No, I didn't say that.

When you think of Edea in your head. What would she look like? That's my point...
I think of the woman who Cid married, who ran and orphanage, and who was later possessed. A woman who was called Matron by those children she cared for.
Well, that doesn't work like that for me. Whenever I think of something in my head, I draw a visual image.

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Squall calls her Matron at that point in the childhood past. He knows that Edea is her name, but he called her Matron anyway.

Of course they are the same person.
So you are essentially making a giant fuss out of nothing, because any half sane person who plays this game can easily distinguish between Free Edea and Possessed Edea without having to insist that there is some important distinction between 'Edea' and 'Matron'
I didn't start this, you know. I called her Matron and look at what happened after that.

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Touché. It's becoming more apparent that your criticism of my English and calling me names are now part of your agruements. How illogical!
No, dweller, they are ancillary criticisms of your arguments. I would never be so petty as to make such an ad hominem in place of duly criticizing the fallacious trolljobs that are your arguments.
If you were actually criticising my agruements, you would be saying things like 'stupid agruement', 'bad agruement', or something like that. Calling the responsible person names directly, who made certain arguements, have nothing to do with 'criticising my arguements.' In other words,



Black line is fine.
Blue line is not cool. Meh, this is the Internet after all.

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If they weren't married, they would be facing the Incident like in Lost.
Which is, and which you know would apply in this instance BECAUSE?
Because I said so.

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So, is there something Ellone or Dr. Odine not telling us ... ?
No, but there's something you don't understand about the nature of causality and paradox.
You have never experienced them within the game. So, please elaborate. As you recall, time travel in VIII is not exactly the same as the one time travel theory in real life.

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:rolleyes2
I'm sorry, bridge dweller, did you forget this is a 'for the lulz' topic?
Yet you quoted all of my text in the first place.