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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    Ultimecia's castle is definitely not on Earth. Somewhere in the upper sky...

    Could there be HELL on the ground (Earth) ? Could that be the reflection of the Star turning red?
    Fortunately, there's absolutely NOTHING in Atmospheric discoloration that requires the earth or a reflection. Just the atmosphere. Which the castle is still in.

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    Default What is a Dying Star?

    A dying star is a star that no longer has enough hydrogen nuclei (free protons) to sustain the thermonuclear fusion reactions that permit its core to combine four hydrogen nuclei to form one helium nucleus.

    Astrophysicists have developed excellent understanding of the death of stars, although new details do continue to emerge. Understanding the death of a star is easier if you keep in mind that most of the star's mass is in its extremely dense core; its outer regions make up most of the star's volume but contain relatively little matter compared to the core. The "life" of a star is in its core.

    A dying star goes through several predictable stages, depending on its mass. Except for the very smallest stars, the death of a star begins with a dramatic collapse of its core and an expansion of its outer regions to form either a giant or supergiant. When this happens to our Sun, its outer photosphere (the only part that gives off light) is likely to extend to somewhere near the Earth's orbital path.

    The core of a giant or supergiant dying star is hot enough that helium nuclei can be fused to form the nuclei of heavier elements. At some point, the dying star can no longer continue any sort of fusion process and the core erupts explosively. For a medium-small star like our Sun, this eruption is relatively gentle; all of the outer shell will be blown away, but the core will remain relatively intact. Scientists call an intact core like this a white dwarf; a white dwarf eventually cools to become a black dwarf.

    In dying stars somewhat larger than our Sun, the core collapses even further to form a very small but very massive remnant called a neutron star; the formation of a neutron star explosively releases a huge amount of energy called a supernova. The very largest supergiants leave remnant cores called black holes which are so dense that not even light can escape from their gravitational field.

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    Which means that if the sun was dying it would have most likely engulfed the planet that FFVIII is set on.
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    That might or not apply to dying star on period.

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    Yes, yes, the period does make it more complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Seriously, why didn't anyone notice this before? The red star is right outside Azala's throne room, just like it's right outside Ulti's throne room, and both of the stars are seen right before the last boss fight with that character! Rinoa isn't Ultimecia, Azala is Ultimecia! And Ulti's real plan to collapse time was to summon Lavos (who we all know had some time manipulating abilities)!
    This was the best goddamn post I have ever read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    Ultimecia's castle is definitely not on Earth. Somewhere in the upper sky...

    Could there be HELL on the ground (Earth) ? Could that be the reflection of the Star turning red?
    Fortunately, there's absolutely NOTHING in Atmospheric discoloration that requires the earth or a reflection. Just the atmosphere. Which the castle is still in.
    When the camera rolls the scene; a scene that's outside of the Ultimecia castle's range, the star started turning red. There's evidence to support this assumption, the Moon is outside of the Ultimecia castle's range and yet it looks the same as the Moon from the present era.

    If whatever you're saying is true, the Moon would of have been adapted to Ultimecia's ominous atmosphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by I Don't Need A Name View Post
    Seriously, its called design.
    Big scary final dungeon showing dispair and darkness, hence the sun isnt very bright.
    Solved.
    You can only see the Star for like two seconds. I doubt many players have seen or paid attention to it. Therefore, there's no good reason for the developers just to make the star look that dark so that players can feel the colour of Ultimecia.
    Wait wait wait...

    You admit that it is only there for two seconds, and that it is largely unseen or ignored by most players.

    And then you use that to argue in favor of it being a major plot point? Get your logic circuits rechecked, buddy, because right now you're stuck on an "i++ UNTIL i<1" loop.

    In general, things that are only in the game for a second or two are, y'know, there for show. To be there for mood, to fill space, whatever. Big plot points generally have a much larger amount of screen time (and usually some dialogue), so that, y'know, players can notice the plot points and absorb them. Since the whole point of the story is that people should be able to UNDERSTAND IT when they play through. Just FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    When the camera rolls the scene; a scene that's outside of the Ultimecia castle's range, the star started turning red. There's evidence to support this assumption, the Moon is outside of the Ultimecia castle's range and yet it looks the same as the Moon from the present era.

    If whatever you're saying is true, the Moon would of have been adapted to Ultimecia's ominous atmosphere.
    It's not the atmosphere of the castle, it's the atmosphere of the earth that does it, child. Cloud cover or airborn dust acts like a color filter. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    When the camera rolls the scene; a scene that's outside of the Ultimecia castle's range, the star started turning red. There's evidence to support this assumption, the Moon is outside of the Ultimecia castle's range and yet it looks the same as the Moon from the present era.

    If whatever you're saying is true, the Moon would of have been adapted to Ultimecia's ominous atmosphere.
    It's not the atmosphere of the castle, it's the atmosphere of the earth that does it, child. Cloud cover or airborn dust acts like a color filter. Simple as that.
    Ultimecia's atmosphere affects everything on Earth? Are you implying that she was the only being ever lived in her time period?

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyBlade
    Wait wait wait...

    You admit that it is only there for two seconds, and that it is largely unseen or ignored by most players.

    And then you use that to argue in favor of it being a major plot point? Get your logic circuits rechecked, buddy, because right now you're stuck on an "i++ UNTIL i<1" loop.
    I'm sure the writers have considered how to deal with things like "What if players take something deeper?"

    They have just done that. They have added a lot of things to the game that are non-dialogueous. Things that are non-dialogueous have the potential of being taken seriously, easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    I'm sure the writers have considered how to deal with things like "What if players take something deeper?"
    Just because "you're sure" doesn't mean they have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Mullet View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Serapy View Post
    I'm sure the writers have considered how to deal with things like "What if players take something deeper?"
    Just because "you're sure" doesn't mean they have.
    Them putting things in VIII and making them appear every once in a while have nothing to do with anything?

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    No, it's called coincidence.
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    Her finger sign at the beginning and the ending, for example. That was not a coincidence.

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    No, not everything is coincidence, but just because something is similar does not mean it was intended to be similar, hence coincidence.
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