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    I joke around a lot by saying this for a lot of characters, but Ramza really is one of the greatest Final Fantasy characters. I mean he does the right thing, despite it never going well for him or his group. And he never stops doing what he believes is right. At least I can't remember any scene where he questioned his resolve.

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    His only un-redeeming quality is that it's near impossible to beat Wiegraf 1:1 with him.
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    my second fav character next to Cloud.

    Ramza sacrificed what he could have had to "do the right thing".Not many of us would sacrifice as he did.

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    A character who rises above the moral ambiguity plaguing his environment to do the right thing and save the world. Great guy. He took blood on his own hands that wasn't his fault (SPOILER)Teta and never stood for injustice.

    Maybe the best in the franchise.

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    I creamed Wiegraf 1v1 the first time. Go dragoons!

    I like how he always tries to avoid a battle, but doesn't waste time as soon as it becomes apparent that he has to fight. And how he goes into a hardcore mercenary bar and orders milk.

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    Ramza is definitely a great character, and in my opinion the best Final Fantasy lead.

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    Yeah he's definitely the best Final Fantasy lead. I think Delita is the most dynamic Final Fantasy character too.

    Marche Radiuju in TA is somewhat like Ramza in that he does what is "right" even though the world is opposing him. He does question himself a lot though, which I thought really made the player think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeloZer0 View Post
    I like how he always tries to avoid a battle, but doesn't waste time as soon as it becomes apparent that he has to fight. And how he goes into a hardcore mercenary bar and orders milk.
    He had some of the best lines as well! "Surrender or die in obscurity!"

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    He failed to do the right thing, and he left a complete psychopath in control of the country. The right thing would have been to knife Delita in the back. And he had plenty of opportunity, he just lacked the conviction to do what need to be done.
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    I'm fairly sure that Ramza had no idea that things would play out leaving Delitia king. The whole reason he got there is that no one thought it would end that way.

    and he left a complete psychopath in control of the country.
    I saw Ramza and Delitia as tragic hero figures, each in their own way. We all know about Ramza, but I don't see why having Delitia become king to help the country can't be a heroic act. I mean, overall Delitia probably killed less innocent people than Ramza did. (Think of all the people Ramza had to kill just because he was a heretic). Delitia was primarily stabbing people in the back who were already corrupt.

    If Delitia was truly a tyrant than history would have recorded him as the king who came to power after the Lion War, not the hero who ended it.

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    I thought he was awesome, but I can't really express how much I wanted him and Delita to team back up in the end I don't remember ever having any problems with Ramza fighting, but this might be b/c I power lv a ton in the beginning to where I have 1/2 the classes before I'm 4-5 fights into the game. That leads me to another note about why Ramza is awesome: HE HAS LUNGS OF STEEL!!! Seriously I have him yell every turn till I make him a bard in which he's singing, and he never stops; that's some serious stamina :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    He failed to do the right thing, and he left a complete psychopath in control of the country. The right thing would have been to knife Delita in the back. And he had plenty of opportunity, he just lacked the conviction to do what need to be done.
    I don't see how Delita is really a psychopath. He spared Cid and his son despite both of them being a liability for his own plans. In the end, Delita mostly took out people who really deserved to be taken out and as VeloZer0 said, he's remembered as a hero and wonderful king, so he probably ran Ivalice better than anyone else. Besides, Ramza had bigger problems than Delita.

    Ramza is trapped in a scenario based in reality. Killing Delita would have only led to more suffering and the possibility of a greater tyrant coming in control. I love the fact the FFT portrays its story in a more realistic context with the total absence of the usual RPG "black and white" morality scheme. It creates a richer more philosophical take on the story telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    That leads me to another note about why Ramza is awesome: HE HAS LUNGS OF STEEL!!! Seriously I have him yell every turn till I make him a bard in which he's singing, and he never stops; that's some serious stamina :P
    Poor fellow must yell himself blue in the face for everyone. I yell at wiegraff till he can't take it anymore and basically gives up.

    The game does a really good job, though it does have a serious good/evil theme between the church and the very few people who know, your 3 way power struggle is amazingly well put together. It is real enough to be possible in mideval times. 2 thumbs up from this guy

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    I agree. Ramza is one of my favorite characters and a very admirable one. This game is one of my favorites 12 years later. I just recently downloaded it from the PSN Store to my PS3. Even though my friends make fun of its crappy graphics, I don't care... it's an amazing game and I'll stay play it for its story and characters.

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    Even though my friends make fun of its crappy graphics,...
    Give me your friends addresses, I will punch them in the teeth for you.

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