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    She said that for the purpose of good storytelling. I don't know if you've seen Terminator 2, but if you have, you'll notice that just before Arnie often repeats lines, particularly "Hasta la vista, baby." This doesn't mean he is talking to a baby, nor does i mean who he is talking to is his parent, nor does it mean he is Spanish or has Spanish ancestry. It is simply a character repeating a line for effect. This is the same reason that Nora repeats the line "Mum's are tough", Snow and others repeat the line "The army's no match for NORA!", in FFVII Barret repeats the line "There ain't no getting off this train", etc. etc. etc. You repeat something because it defines your attitude, it reminds people of things, because it emphasises a point, because it is good storytelling.

    This is nothing new. This is just defining Nora's attitude: A tough Mum. Every time she does something brave, she says the line "Mum's are tough."

    Finally: People remember faces far more than names. If he remembered her name - even if vaguely... then he would remember her face - even if vaguely. But he never said anything about it being his mother, he said "your mother" to Hope.

    I'm sorry, FE, but you haven't got the required evidence for this one, either. You can have your opinion on things and I'm sure it's very fun to make up little stories like this, but in the long run it serves little purpose but to satisfy your craving for everything to tie together on levels that are above and beyond the actual story.
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    Itīs a coincidence that simply canīt happen.Itīs simply bad storytelling.Whether or not is a literary speech style.

    How did Snow baptize his team as N.O.R.A and AFTER that meet Nora?
    I think she actualy never said her name to him which only strenghtens my point.

    Square canīt just do that for the reasons you told because they have to give a rational explanation to it and not just play with it comically.Stories just donīt work like this.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    There is no such thing as a coincidence that can't happen when it comes to storytelling, and considering most of us seem to accept the coincidence, it clearly can happen. One shouldn't state things as facts when the opposite is very, very obviously true.

    Asking how he named his team NORA and afterwards met a lady named Nora is like asking someone how they named a team called ROGER and afterwards met a guy called Roger. It happens. Nora isn't an insanely rare name, you do realise that, right?

    The fact that she never said her name to him doesn't make any difference whatsoever. He had already named his team.

    They can just do that for the reasons I have said and they do not have to give a rational explanation (although coincidence is 100% rational). A guy can be an orphan and make a group called Dyslexic All Very Englishmen and then meat a guy called Dave and go "Oh man, my groups name is DAVE!" but it wouldn't make the guy he just met his father.

    You don't think S-E can do play with words comically? Have you even played most of the FF series? It's got so much comedy throughout the series that it is expected that there would be such things happening. I think it's very well done, personally.

    Stories work like this just fine because that's what they are: Stories. Even in reality, though, it wouldn't surprise me if some group made a gang with a name that happened to be the same as a name of a person they would later meet. These things happen. The great thing about stories it that you can force them to happen for the sake of amusement, and that's what video games are all about: Amusement. This kind of thing is, without any doubt, exactly the kind of thing that is possible and very easily possible and entirely rational when it comes to storytelling.

    To say otherwise is, in all honesty, ignorant.
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    Nora is not a common name.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Almost 1% of females in America are named Nora. That's about, what, 1.25 million? I'd say that's common enough. I know I've met a couple of people named Nora in my lifetime, if not more. And I'm only 26 years old. A friend of mine in intermediate school. It's a name more well known amongst the older generations than the young, admittedly - I often hear of Nora's in the elderly generation.

    EDIT: To put it in perspective, there are more females in America named Nora than there are females named Claire (which even I'm pretty surprised at).

    EDIT: Even Wikipedia details Nora as a common name. And the list of Nora's there isn't short.

    EDIT: And the name means 'Honour' which is something which I think would be a reasonable name for her character. Perhaps they just wanted to name her something which means 'honourable'. This would make sense as she was an honourable character, putting her life on the line to defend her family with, well, honour.
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    Why is it that everytime I make a theory 99% proved someone comes up with something like.
    "Itīs just coincidence"
    "Itīs just literary speech"
    "Itīs just a graphical bug"
    "Itīs just lazyness from the creators"

    Seems like an excuse to debunk a reasonable theory when someone dislikes it.
    There is no conditions to continue this thread.
    I give up knowing I am right.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar View Post
    Why is it that everytime I make a theory 99% proved.
    Stop right there. You have never done that. Ever.

    Snow is an orphan. His parents were dead. The acronym of his group's name being the same as the name of Hope's mom is just a device Square used to build tension between the two characters.

    If Snow had chosen the name because it was his mom's name, that would mean he knew his mom's name. Don't you think he'd run a check on the census to see if she's still around at some point?
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    The name lies on his subconscious.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    You have nothing to prove that. I'm sorry, FE, but coincidences do happen in video games, and in this case it is for a reason - the story telling. Otherwise they would have made more of a big deal about such things. If you never concede that you might be wrong, nobody will respect your opinion.

    EDIT: However, as you are of the opinion that there is no "condition to continue this thread", I will close your thread.
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