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    I think the only issue with playing online is that you'd have a bunch of people deciding to attack you just to mess around. I know I did that in FFIX xD

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    He's doing so many things wrong. Wada has his development teams hopping on every fad that comes and goes and nearly all of them without FF or DQ in the title fail. They're still where they were at 4 or so years ago.

    This is all abstraction, but I agree with Depression Moon and Vel0Zer0 that corporate-devised ultimatums handed down from men in business suits can only hinder game development.

    And anyone saying "if they put in this feature, more people will buy it, they'll have more money, they'll put that into bigger budgets, we'll get better games" or whatever, that's actually going against your entire point. Your job as a market actor is to decide if you like something, then buy it if you can afford it. That's it. When you take into account business mechanisms and their theoretical future effect, you're undermining the very idea that you're putting forth.

    That's probably why capitalism doesn't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪ View Post
    I think the only issue with playing online is that you'd have a bunch of people deciding to attack you just to mess around. I know I did that in FFIX xD
    Uh, no you didn't. I'm assuming you mean FF11 and not FF9, btw.

    You couldn't attack other players in FF11 without both players having joined a pvp minigame.

    Even in WoW (which is very pvp focused), there are servers without open PVP. I don't see how this would be a problem in any way in a game with online play as an additional, optional feature.

    And I'm not taking "business mechanics" into account when i buy games. What i did was counter the other arguments that took business mechanics into their account, saying it budgets would suffer too much from the extra features. I was saying budgets wouldn't necessarily suffer if they thought they'd be able to make money and therefore give their game a bigger budget.

    Capitalism works better than currently known alternatives, btw.
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    In FFIX it is possible to attack the other player, although it's pretty stupid since you'll both get a game over. If you played online with trolls, they might take advantage of that. Anyway, I'm sure they'll find a good solution to that, they're not morons after all.

    FFV also has multiplayer, Del.

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    Online multiplayer in FF9, Levian?
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    Hm, just thought of an interesting my multiplayer might work on titles like FF9.

    Just think of that game, the battle system is crap for multiplayer, and adding co-op would essentially ruin the narrative mark (the high point of the game imo). However, you could easily add some multiplayer side stories in featuring the adventures of Tantalus running parallel to the game. That is one way to slot it into existing content without ruining the single player experience.

    Of course it has the side effect of pissing gamers off like me who are now missing out on part of the game's content.

    IMO the best way to enjoy a game like FF socially is to just be on voice chat with your friends as you all play through it together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Online multiplayer in FF9, Levian?
    Better stop smoking those socks.
    Pssht, if I'm having a sock, then you're having the other one.

    I figured the first sentence was about how FF9 would be if it did have multiplayer, and then the second sentence about what she had done in offline multiplayer. You said it yourself, it's not possible to attack other people in FFXI.

    anyway, about the topic. Even games such as FFIV DS have some online functionality, it just doesn't have much to do with the main game at all. I'm sure small stuff like that is what Wada is talking about.

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    >>> Im sending my ninjas to kill that Wada guy..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪ View Post
    I think the only issue with playing online is that you'd have a bunch of people deciding to attack you just to mess around. I know I did that in FFIX xD
    Uh, no you didn't. I'm assuming you mean FF11 and not FF9, btw.

    You couldn't attack other players in FF11 without both players having joined a pvp minigame.

    Even in WoW (which is very pvp focused), there are servers without open PVP. I don't see how this would be a problem in any way in a game with online play as an additional, optional feature.

    And I'm not taking "business mechanics" into account when i buy games. What i did was counter the other arguments that took business mechanics into their account, saying it budgets would suffer too much from the extra features. I was saying budgets wouldn't necessarily suffer if they thought they'd be able to make money and therefore give their game a bigger budget.

    Capitalism works better than currently known alternatives, btw.

    Naw, I was talking about 9. I was being silly, mostly! Thinking of times where me and a friend would play FFIX together and attack each other xD

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    Well, that certainly is crazy
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    I don't like relying on others to 100% my games, so I often get irritated when a single player game like FF3 and FFTactics-WoL throws in bonus items/classes (many times the best of such) that require the online function to achieve. If online has no effect on offline, I'll love the idea. I always wanted to take my perfect party and see how it'd fare against others. I don't want to have to exchange people-codes, or do this or that to create my perfect party. We'll see what happens.
    Knock yourselves down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black orb View Post
    >>> Im sending my ninjas to kill that Wada guy..
    Should've used a Shadow sprite.

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