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[[M] Apollo]

Sweet Zombie Jesus. Okay. So first just some commentary on stuff that sticks out to me.

Why would you want to lynch Nyx? Just because she voted for Persephone? I don't really have a read on her, has she done anything, really?

She created the argument that was used for the lynch. I already explained how it was faulty logic. I'll grab the quote.

It does seem a little odd that Hygieia would go for the throat of Nyx, especially because Nyx was the first Persephone vote. Why note go for the clincher vote? Or the final vote? Going for the first seems a little odd.

Oh my, today is going to be a very confusing day. This game is already too mindsmurfed as it is already. I'm going to need more than just luck to make it through today. x_x

And so that I don't end up forgetting, looks like I have to vote, huh? Well, I guess Nyx it is!

Apollo
Apollo
Nyx
##Vote: Nyx


I propose we keep this list to include the last four votes casted, so the total would be 5 votes, which includes the poster's vote, or would this confuse everyone even further?

Why Nyx, again? Just confused (or else confused myself, lol)

Apollo
Nyx
Nyx
##Vote: [M] Nyx

Looking back, Nyx made a fairly persuasive case for Persephone on very little evidence. You could say it was my fault for buying it, but I'm too pretty to be accountable for my actions. So, now I'm bitter (and bitterness is one of my sexiest traits!)

Looking back, you've said and done very little of your own free thinking. Nyx's argument wasn't anymore especially persuasive, to me at least. I think Persephone made herself and easy mark when she gave up the ghost so quickly, so whatever scum existed, as well as easily swayed townies or other factions, latched on. Does this absolve Nyx? Not at all, could be the fall guy or the ring leader. Does it provide a little more legitimacy to her arguments? I think maybe it does.

Helios, I wasn't saying you were shirking your responsibility. I was just mentioning that you had wanted the credit earlier on. You can take it all now if you want

I don't see where you guys are getting my 'push' from. My vote doesn't really suggest everyone lynch Persephone.

There has been a lot of talk about Hestia's vote to kill Hephaestus and (allegedly) save Hades. But, just five minutes before the end of the day, Persephone voted for Hephaestus and tied up the game. Persephone saved Hades. Maybe she wants to take him up on his offer, or maybe they're already in cahoots?

Either way, there's something not quite right about that.
##Vote: [M] Persephone

The next time I mentioned, or even alluded to Persephone was actually in a post about Helios.

The next time I discussed Persephone was trying to make sure Tyche had an actual reason for voting Persephone. If anything, I was allaying that vote. Or maybe you see it differently.

I can't see the push however.

If you were allaying the vote for Persephone, why didn't you change your vote then? I'm suspicious of you, definitely. I can't figure you out. You're arguing here that you were actually trying to prevent Persephone's death through argument, but you could have done the exact same thing by simply unvoting. Why wouldn't you take a direct action that was possible instead of a roundabout action that probably wouldn't work? Odd.

Alright mothersmurfers. Hestia's back.

Few things; the rules of this day are confusing, but not overly so. There must be two votes in a row for the same person, BEFORE a new person can be voted for. We need to be careful because a vote for someone who is 2 below the minimum for lynching, actually causes that person to be lynched. However, please stop focusing on this new role. To be put into simple words, its a trap to lure us away from finding scum.

Next. Nyx used the same faulty logic Apollo did about someone "saving" Hades and thus being guilty, however her argument was more persuasive at the time which is why the bandwagon started.

I was suspicious of Persephone because of her lack of involvement. Once she started talking, I tried to keep her alive.

Persephone's death was a bad one, however, Nyx is being scapegoated. Nyx is being used to make us forget, that we almost lynched Apollo yesterday, and that for all of Apollo's tricks of being a bomb (very lame way to try and claim it). He didn't take the lynch. He saved himself.

##vote: Apollo

Nyx's argument was only persuasive if you believed I was a bad guy. If you believe I'm a badguy, why the hell wouldn't you lynch me? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to the people who latched on to Nyx's argument. It's pretty fallacious, if you ask me. Best way to learn about Hades is to kill Hades. I don't believe for a second the Persephone bandwagoners really believed killing her would reveal something about me. Do you guys know anything more about me now that she's dead? Nope. And we lost a doctor. Those Persephone bandwagoners are worth taking a look at.

Hermes that vote on Posiedon will not count unfortunately, because the next vote must be on Apollo. You do raise a very good case against him, and to be honest he is another on my list of scum suspects. I just don't want to go after too many at once because then votes against them are too spread out and they can have an easier time throwing a townie in the line of fire at the last minute.

Nyx is trying to worm her way out of suspicion. The reason why I blame her for lynching Persephone is that nobody seriously was giving a thought about her until after she made the Persephone saved Hades post.

Why make a case against somebody and vote to lynch them if you don't want to? (Other than the forced bandwagons today of course) Watch out everyone, because Nyx is going to try everything to get an innocent townie to take the fall for her.

Again, I don't think you can throw sole responsibility at Nyx, though I agree she does engage in some serious double talk. Who are you protecting, though, that you want us to look only at her?

Laaaaaame! I just spent a fortune on that Ducati and now you say the gang is done!?

Anyways, what alignment is the bomb role? Can it be either or? I would assume that in this case it would be town aligned because of Eros' role as a mafia member. Why would mafia need a 'hurtlocker' if the bomb was mafia as well? For now I'm going to operate under the assumption that Apollo is town and, if he actually is a bomb, is just kind of a booby trap for mafia. I could be totally wrong in that though, I'm not a very seasoned Mafia player.

Also, Hygieia, you're acting really strange. Your megapush for Nyx and Apollo is kind of unnerving to me.

And Hermes what's with your change in attitude? Blink twice if you've been replaced with a pod person.

Bomb's are usually neutral and kill the person who kills them. So the scumbag who performs the kill shot gets bombed or the final lynch vote gets bombed ... that being said, I don't think Apollo is a bomb. I think he's trying to threaten bomb status to ensure that no one wants to kill him. That being said, if we ever get through this freaking annoying bandwagon stuff (I am still a little confused, yes) I willingly volunteer to be the lynch vote for him. If he's a bomb, I die and everyone keeps playing. If he's not, he's probably a scumbag. I still think he's a scumbag. That being said, I'm still not willing to vote, mostly because I want to be careful about the bandwagon thing.

Apollo is 100% without a doubt a bomb of some sort. Whether he is a Dud, a mafia aligned bomb, or a Terrorist, I can not say.

I am a Bomb Detector. Each night I can check someone for bomb parts. Obviously after Day 2's shenanigans I investigated Apollo. Please everyone pay careful attention to the vote count. We've had mafia bombs in the past and Apollo is certainly suspicious, so if we do decide to lynch him, please take caution.

(Aphrodite was my Night 1 investigation, if anyone was curious.)

Why should we believe this roleclaim? Hmm. As I said before, lynch him and let me be the final lynch vote (if we can pull that off as a town.) If he's a bomb and I die, your roleclaim is probably legitimate and you're an asset to the town. If Apollo is scum, you've protected him in a weird way and are probably scum too.

The more I think on it, the more this roleclaim bugs me. Because not only did YOU tell the TOWN that Apollo is a bomb, you also reveal it to the mafia. Now they won't touch him to keep the members of the faction safe. This bothers me. Argh. This is why I don't like roleclaims. Tell me how you feel about letting me be the final vote for the lynch.

Theory. With two people dying each night, there must be a second killing role. Two roles dealing with bombs seems like overkill if we only have one or two normal bombs.

However, Apollo being a Serial-Killer with bomb flavor (terrorist? ) could explain all of this. Perhaps it's some setup where Hera was suppose to find the terrorist. This also explains the addition of the Hurt Locker. Something for the mafia to combat the Serial-Bomber with.

lol flavor. Apollo might be a bomb. That would explain the hurtlocker. Or he could be mafia and knew there was a hurtlocker, so he claimed bomb so he wouldn't be touched.

Mindsmurf mindsmurf mindsmurf mindsmurf.

I feel this discussion about bombers and whatnot has gone down a dead end. It has been very fruitful, and kudos to all involved in it, you've really helped!

Now, I think we could turn our attention to something else.

Hermes's Friendly Mafia Tips You can't focus on one person and say "Done for the day!" - after all, with just one bad guy down, there's bound to be more lurking out there!

Helios and Nyx - the mirrors

Helios and Nyx have been taking shots at each other today. But their similarities are perhaps more intriguing than their differences.

On Day One, Helios and Nyx were the only people to vote for Tyche.

On Day Two, Helios and Nyx were the first two people to vote for Persephone.

Take a look at their posts today.

I'm not sure who or what killed Eros. We could have another mafia faction, or we could have a vigilante. If it's a vigilante, great shooting. Let's hope you can get another one tonight.

With so many accounts in play, I think we have two scum teams.

A major loss for us, losing our Doctor. I regret my part in that, but there was little else that could be done. We just have to build from this and try to look at the positives -- our first scum death.

Very unfortunate that a Doctor is dead. All's not lost, though.

All is clearly not as it seems between these two!

BITESIZE

• Aphrodite has a gimmick to do with people loving her and vanity. It's likely not a posting restriction, as she started on Day 0, before we knew our roles
• Artemis - possible lyncher on me?
• Hades has faded away after being rather prominent early on. Worth observing
• Soon it will be crunch time for our trio of inactives.

I haven't faded. I have lost my dog and my girlfriend, and I still had to go to work! But I do agree that we need to roust out our inactives and that Aphrodite is odd and gimmicky.