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    My argument is that there are tons of legal substances that are lethal in the wrong doses. Most people who use drugs recreationally are not suicidal, and therefore do not willfully consume drugs in high enough doses to kill them.

    Deaths from ODs are often caused by mistakes, which are much more likely to happen when a drug is illegal and it is hard to find out the exact potency of whatever it is they're going to use.

    Potential death is not an argument for keeping a drug illegal, because if someone wants to kill themselves, they can do this with OTC painkillers, and potential death is clearly not something anyone cares about when they drink alcohol, so why should they care about it when it comes to ecstacy? Why should my drug of choice be banned for a reason that someone else's drug of choice (alcohol) isn't banned for?

    As far as I know, deaths from MDMA alone are extremely uncommon, and when they do happen, it's usually because of hyperthermia you are at higher risk of getting while on MDMA. However, it can easily be countered by consuming greater quantities of water. It is also not unheard of that people try to sell things that aren't really E as actually E, causing the user to consume a substance they aren't familiar with, aren't physically used to, and don't know how to dose properly. That's another thing that you can more easily avoid if you can easily trace the drug you purchase back to its manufacturer.
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    I simply don't follow because you CANNOT overdose on marijuana in any consumption method known to me that is lethal - you'll sooner pass out safely and wake up fine than die.

    So ban all of the lethal substances: water, salt, ... wait you can die from smoking too many cigarettes?

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    I don't see how that's relevant. Marijuana should be legal even if you could OD on it.
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    well suicide should be 'legal'. I agree but I had been limiting my scope. um..so like let's go back to everyone saying yes

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    Suicide being legal or illegal also has nothing to do with this. People don't do recreational drugs to kill themselves, and even if they did, they could do that in much cheaper and efficient ways that don't involve drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Suicide being legal or illegal also has nothing to do with this. People don't do recreational drugs to kill themselves, and even if they did, they could do that in much cheaper and efficient ways that don't involve drugs.
    I don't think the price is much of an issue when you're trying to kill yourself. As for efficient idk.
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    marijuana smoking should be mandatory, then no one would want to do it.
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    I think it should be legalised because I don't see anything wrong with it. I've never been caught with it in London and very few people are. It's only if you have a lot of it will anything severe happen. I don't buy it a lot/often so I don't really worry about getting caught. And I don't think they do drug tests for your run of the mill job in England.

    And for those of you who think it shouldn't be legalised but still want to smoke it, you should just go to Amsterdam, my mates said it's really good their and I'm gonna go there during the summer.

    I strongly believe that alcohol and cigarettes are much worse for you than weed. You can't OD, you don't do stupid stuff (like walk in front of a car, fall over or start a fight) and I think it might be less cancerous than tobacco is. When you smoke weed, you just want to kick back and relax with some music, tv or video games and life just seems much more brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Why not?
    It's mostly for selfish reasons really, I'm not some raving anti-drug nut.

    My younger brother is addicted to the stuff, he can't have a good time without it, and the only thing keeping him from constantly smoking (literally) is the legal implications and the fact that occasionally there is no supply.
    Like everyone says; it mostly just makes people want to chill and do nothing, which is something my family can't afford to do at the moment.

    Anyone who says weed isn't addictive is an idiot.

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    While I appreciate your honestly, please don't punish the rest of us because your brother is a smurf up.

    Anyway, are you ready for this? Weed isn't addictive. Physically.

    Psychologically? Yes. However, anything is potentially psychologically addictive. Literally anything. Pot is addictive in the same way video games and sex are addictive, not the way that nicotine and alcohol are addictive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbit View Post
    While I appreciate your honestly, please don't punish the rest of us because your brother is a smurf up.

    Anyway, are you ready for this? Weed isn't addictive. Physically.

    Psychologically? Yes. However, anything is potentially psychologically addictive. Literally anything. Pot is addictive in the same way video games and sex are addictive, not the way that nicotine and alcohol are addictive.
    Well yeah I already knew how it was addictive, you don't need to spell it out for me in that way.
    You seem pretty passionate about the subject while it's really low on my list of things I want made legal/illegal. I'm just saying for me it's better that it's illegal.

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    Then make it illegal for just you. ;o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crop View Post
    Well yeah I already knew how it was addictive, you don't need to spell it out for me in that way.
    You seem pretty passionate about the subject while it's really low on my list of things I want made legal/illegal. I'm just saying for me it's better that it's illegal.
    So you're admitting that it's not physically addictive (psychologically addictive doesn't mean anything, since anything can be), and that you like that it's illegal for purely selfish reasons. That's... lame. And downright amoral, frankly.

    And if I seem pretty passionate about it it's only because I'm not the kind of person who thinks things should be illegal for no other real reason than because I want them to be. I'm even more passionate about marriage rights being inclusive of those who prefer their own gender, regardless of the fact that I'm heterosexual. I really don't see your point here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbit View Post
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    Well yeah I already knew how it was addictive, you don't need to spell it out for me in that way.
    You seem pretty passionate about the subject while it's really low on my list of things I want made legal/illegal. I'm just saying for me it's better that it's illegal.
    So you're admitting that it's not physically addictive (psychologically addictive doesn't mean anything, since anything can be), and that you like that it's illegal for purely selfish reasons. That's... lame. And downright amoral, frankly.
    Well...yeah, but it's not like I have the power to make it legal anyway, so it's all good.
    You don't see my point because I'm not making one, I'm not fighting against you or anything so I don't see why you're getting so worked up. This is only GC, I didn't post to start a debate or anything, the OP asked a question and I answered.

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    Firstly, just because I don't like your opinion does not mean I'm "worked up." And, yes, your opinion does matter. When it's time to vote for these things, the more people there are like you, who go out of their way to avoid really basing their opinion on anything reasonable, the less likely it is that anything gets done. I live in a democratic country, and so the purposeful ignorance of others does affect me.

    Saying you don't like it is fine, but saying you think it should be illegal for everyone because you don't like it is not cool.

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