Dynasty Warriors Game Thread: Mafia XX GAME OVER Mafia cockblock the Cult

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

Good god you're accusing everyone who disagrees with you.

A Cult doesn't necessarily need a leader. In fact, I've played several games without one. I'm not saying there is or isn't a cult and/or its leader, but let's not rule anything out.

BUT I'M NOT! I'm a Vanilla Townie. 100%. It doesn't matter to me if you think I am or not, but it does when you use it in a poor argument to get me lynched.

And I'm not stupid enough to claim Vanilla after eight others did. :rolleyes: Come on, now. I said I was Vanilla to emphasize someone could be lying, but not to capitalize on Ma Chao.

First, there was always speculation on the condition of our cop. Second, if we don't speculate we get nowhere.

Your weak arguments, overly aggressive manner, and assurance that since I'm the "most supicious" makes me "evil" is too much to deal with.

##Vote: Xiahou Dun

I don't buy the whole "He's the one who's really uncertain" thing. Nobody should be certain in Mafia. Ever. To find me suspicious because you're "unceratin of my affiliation" is weak and scummy.

Well your premise is very faulty. We have for almost the whole game assumed that if the cops investigations are true that Sima Yi and Cao Cao are also innocent. By that logic, if you call into question Xiahou Yun's innocence, than you must question the innocence of the other 2. And if you leave those 2 alone, then you must know something about them. Such as they are both cult like you? Only a hypothesis. But it does seem suspicious that you assume the guilt of someone already proclaimed innocent without questioning the others in the same circumstances.

##Vote: Meng Huo

[[M] Elize]

I'm questioning based on that I find him suspicious. I'm not going to question someone who I don't find suspicious. It's the same thing Xiahou's doing with me questioning Ma Chao. Don't get mad at me for thinking a duck quacks.

[[M] Elize]

AND WE SHOULDN'T ASSUME COP INVESTIGATIONS ARE ENTIRELY TRUE AT THIS POINT>

We shouldn't.

[[M] Elize]

I mean, Lu and Xiahou, it's one thing for you to find me suspcious based on how I act, but to me, it's more you finding me suspcious on finding others suspicious.

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

AND WE SHOULDN'T ASSUME COP INVESTIGATIONS ARE ENTIRELY TRUE AT THIS POINT>

We shouldn't.

So then why are we assuming Cao Cao's or Sima yi's innocence. If the investigations are void then so is their innocence.

[[M] Elize]

I'm not! I just don't find them as suspicious.

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

I mean, Lu and Xiahou, it's one thing for you to find me suspcious based on how I act, but to me, it's more you finding me suspcious on finding others suspicious.

I don't find you suspicious because you find Xiahou suspicious but rather for the fact that you question evidence and don't question all parties that the evidence pertains to. Forensic investigation 101.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

I'm not! I just don't find them as suspicious.

Who had weak arguments again?

Okay look at this :

Cao - He's confirmed Emperor. He might be cult but still. I can't vote for him cause he'll just stop the lynch and make the day go to waste.
Guan Yu - He's the cop! Don't say he's not. Zhuge Liang confirmed it. I'm looking at you Cao.
Sima Yi - Suspicious claim BUT he turned innocent on investigation. That's +1 in his favor no matter what.
Lu Meng - Doublevoter duh
Meng Huo - Nothing. He even claimed Peasant which is pretty much impossible. Therefore I can't vote anyone else except for you.

[[M] Elize]

I found Xiahou suspicious because of his weak and seeingly contrived arguments against me.

His "confirmed role" had nothing to do with it. You're assuming that's what I'm basing my suspicions on, and I'm not.

[[M] Elize]

Guan could still be naive. And for a guy who got nothing but innocent readings, that's still plausible.

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

I found Xiahou suspicious because of his weak and seeingly contrived arguments against me.

His "confirmed role" had nothing to do with it. You're assuming that's what I'm basing my suspicions on, and I'm not.

Weak arguments do not override confirmed evidence. If this was a court of law, you would be bitch slapped back to the last century. If you are going to challenge the evidence here, you will need to bring strong evidence yourself. Not just "But I'm not. His arguments are weak. Lets ignore the evidence".

[[M] Jeff - Single Dad]

Guan could still be naive. And for a guy who got nothing but innocent readings, that's still plausible.

Plausible but extremely unlikely. If there was a naive cop in the game, there would also be a proper cop to balance. But there is not. And so we have to accept his investigations as truth.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

I'm sure you all agree with my reasoning above^.
He's the only one whose innocence we can't prove. He could be anything. While the other players all have something to go by.

[[M] Elize]

I found Xiahou suspicious because of his weak and seeingly contrived arguments against me.

His "confirmed role" had nothing to do with it. You're assuming that's what I'm basing my suspicions on, and I'm not.

Weak arguments do not override confirmed evidence. If this was a court of law, you would be bitch slapped back to the last century. If you are going to challenge the evidence here, you will need to bring strong evidence yourself. Not just "But I'm not. His arguments are weak. Lets ignore the evidence".

You sounds like Raistlin here.

Nothing. Is. Confirmed. Nothing. The guy could easily be naive and Xiahou could easily be lying. That's a fact. You're putting far too much faith on something you don't know and treating it as fact.

And a guy claiming something isn't confirmation, and you're basing your entire argument on something that isn't proven.

[[M] D'Anna]

If nobody is going to see sense then I may have to use my power again