Mafia XXI Day 5: Silent Night

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

Mafia has to survive I believe

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

If the Usurper is like how you say they are, they'd just be another Lyncher.

[[M] Athena]

"The wording of the Usurper aspect of the Win Condition can vary somewhat. Some mods will simply require the Godfather to die before the end of the game, regardless of whether the Usurper is alive."

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

If the Usurper is like how you say they are, they'd just be another Lyncher.

Well there is a lyncher in this game since we already lost the lynchee. Is that another roleclaim Jenova?

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Ok.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

If the Usurper is like how you say they are, they'd just be another Lyncher.

Well there is a lyncher in this game since we already lost the lynchee. Is that another roleclaim Jenova?

NO! GOD NO! I was just making an observation.

[[M] Elize]

Getting through page 10 and Gabranth sums up everything I wanted to say about Jenova:

Well it seems like I've become the scapegoat of the moment. Let's look at some of Jenova's posts to see what we can see.

Orphan that Reactor claim is hard to believe. Explain yourself.

If Orphan wants to be spared my vote he must come and explain himself.

So you suspected Orphan, claimed that you intended to vote for Orphan but didn't in the end. Your suspicion was based on his obviously bad roleclaim.

And then you turn around and make another super-powered, obviously bad roleclaim? Interesting.

Well, this game sucks so far. Hmm....

I also find Jihl and Seph suspcious, but who I really want to hear from is Gilgamesh. This game is far too chotic for my dead heart to take. As a sake of organization: Gilgamesh, why are you talking the way you do? If you're a townie there's an admittedly small chance you may have to speak that way, but it's distracting nonetheless. However, it's many a Serial Killer (or Mafia) tactic to speak on such a manner to give people the impression that's what their role does. It's smart! So explain yourself.

Gilgamesh, could you even attempt to make a point that isn't made in half-ellipses half-tomfoolery?

The way you speak, Gil, can be significant. Especially considering it's a common and valid way to hide your role.

We don't like that you're deliberately sabotaging the town, according to your buddy Zermous.

So yeah, that's why everyone votes for people. Your arguments are flimsy.

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO!!! BEING NEEDLESSLY ABSTRACT IS POOR GAMEPLAY!

And now you're avoiding my arguments. Welp, my vote stays.

And then today you've decided to go on and target Gilgamesh for.... role-playing. Oh because role-playing is a flimsy disguise? Do I have to remind you of the WWE Mafia in which a character HAD to role-play in order to have a successful game

So then you go on and lalala and argue some more and act like a general brat making very little rational argument about Gilgamesh. And when it becomes pretty obvious that most people think you're full of crap, you flip your script. Suddenly you've decided to target another person (me) because you saw me do something last night? As a watcher?

(Guys at this point something is smurfing up with my browser and I can't pull anymore multi-quotes so bear with me.)

You've already smurfed up one time by stating you've taken three night actions when you would only have been able to commit two, and then laughably back-pedaled. First you say you took no action on Night 1 because you were afraid of killing someone. That is a fairly good response. HOWEVER there have only been two nights. Which wouldn't allow you to take no action, take an action involving Fujin and then take an action involving me.

So how could you have had three opportunities for night actions and savvily abstained from the first? Oh, whoops you forgot. You actually never abstained from your night action, you merely forgot that there had only been two nights! So... why make up a reason for abstention? Maybe because the other actions are made up too? My guess is yes.

Let's entertain the idea that you actually do have this role. Why watch me? Because I'm inactive, you say? Admittedly I've made fewer posts than many (Zeromus and Brahne come to mind) but I have tried to be a bit more thoughtful in my posting. Why not target Kefka? Who doesn't seem to have made a post since day 1?

Because you're trying to pin Orphan's death on someone. Me, Brahne and Fujin voted for an Orphan lynch yesterday and then he mysteriously dies the next night. You can't target Brahne. She's too active, no one would follow that. So you have me and Fujin, both with he same relative activity. So you claim to have taken some type of action involving both of us.

A weak argument always pulls the most obvious evidence, so you pull and mention the two people who voted Orphan.

That absolutely REEKS of a bad scum set up.

Let's continue. Say I could tell you guys for sure that I know Jenova is Mafia? Or Fujin? Or Kefka? Would you believe that?

Jenova smells like scum to me. Belittling roleclaims then making one herself, going after Gilgamesh with no evidence and then when the tide obviously will not turn on one scapegoat, she picks out another?

I'm not gonna roleclaim. That's stupid. I am gonna say that Jenova is scum to the core, based on her actions so far.

##vote: Jenova

Seriously, what is up with people following Jenova's lead about anything? smurf that trout.

[[M] Al - Biker Dad]

If the Usurper is like how you say they are, they'd just be another Lyncher.

Well there is a lyncher in this game since we already lost the lynchee. Is that another roleclaim Jenova?

NO! GOD NO! I was just making an observation.

Not that I would believe another roleclaim from you anyway

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Necron, Gabranth admitted he was scum!

[[M] Elize]

Okay, so at the end of page 10:
Brahne refuses to vote. THEN WE HAVE NOTHING TO JUDGE YOU BY YOU JERK. VOTE. Very suspicious.
Why press for a roleclaim from Gabranth and then absolutely call it crap, Brahne and Jenova?
Good job, Gabranth, on catching the whole 3 actions 2 night dealie I too am fed up with.
Holy trout, how could Gabranth know Orphan was going to die at night? This is ridiculous that you try to make an argument over it, Brahne.

[[M] Elize]

CURRENTLY AT THE END OF PAGE 10 I KNOW NOTHING

[[M] Elize]

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WELL

That would explain why Jenova can say he knew Gabranth was scum. Kill them both?

[[M] Trevor - Gay Dad]

Okay, so I've read through most of the posts and I'm pretty much just WTF!? about it all. I'd like for Jenova to make her role more clear, to hopefully be able to understand that aspect. If you could just give a rundown of what powers you have and when you used them that would be a big help.

Also, where do people stand on Gabranth's claim of being a Godfather? I don't understand why he ditched the role-claim of Busdriver so quickly, because he wasn't under a great deal of pressure, especially because Jenova's roleclaim was so suspicious and confusing. To me it seems like he could be a potential Jester, but if that is the case then Jenova's roleclaim can't be true.

[[M] Walter - Smart Dad]

Every night I can use a random night action on someone I deem appropriate. I then discover both what power I got and what happened as a result. Night 2 I discovered Gabranth was at Orphan's house Night 2. He was the non-Mafia casualty this morning.

Therefore, I deduce he is likely the one who killed Orphan.

[[M] Elize]

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So why kill Gabranth before Jenova? If people are worried about an Usurper win, we string up Jenova first. And Jester? Well, screw Jesters, you cannot do crap about them. They smurf up trout and unless the game actually ended when he died, I do not give a crap.