Quote Originally Posted by Pike View Post
Quote Originally Posted by darkchrono View Post
Well you might not care about why they are playing as long as they are playing. But why they are playing will have an impact on how much effort they are willing to put into a game. Also I wouldn't necessarily call someone who only plays to kill time as being much of a gamer. That's like calling someone who only watches a t.v. show half-heartedly while doing three other things at the same time a die hard fan of that show.
Well, if you're using "gamer" to mean "video game enthusiast or connoisseur", then I'd argue that very few people fall under that category for something like films as well. Not everyone who watches a movie is a film buff. Most people aren't. Same for games, and any other art form.

As for your thing on multitasking while watching TV, I dunno, I watched all of Firefly and the first four seasons of House while playing WoW, doing art, and other things and I'd call myself a pretty dang die-hard fan of both of those shows.

Anyways it looks like we either aren't going to agree, or we're missing each other and talking about two different tangents of the same subject, so perhaps we should agree to disagree?
Probably have the same response for you that I gave to Milf. The thing is is that you guys are people who in which video games are pretty important to. So you guys obviously are going to want to believe anything that makes it seem video games are every bit as mainstream as other types of media are.