Anniversary Mafia Game Thread - The Final Day

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

What bait were you referring to Rydia?

I'd better hold onto that one for now. No sense making it easy on the mafs.

[[M] Adama]

Eh, makes sense. Either way, I didn't notice.

It's incredibly early in the day, and I need sleep. So I shall see you guys later. Have fun!

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

P.S. Have I mentioned, "dammit?"

[[M] Apollo]

So unless the mafia has some sort of really annoying ability to PM people (see Mailmain, Courier or Whisperer), this confirms Wedge's innocence and his role.

While I don't have any scummy vibes coming from Wedge (who was totally absent yesterday) I would like to point to my comments earlier that just because he shows up clean doesn't mean he isn't a serial killer. I still wouldn't exactly be comfortable with Wedge just yet.

Oh yeah, I forgot about your investigation of Wedge. Though, why aren't you gunning for Wedge a bit more?
I understand why you might want to be hesitant, but if you know you're the FBI Agent, and you received a guilty result after a few days of innocent results, I wouldn't be hesitant, I would be outright stating that Wedge were the Serial Killer.
This just seems off to me.

[[M] Apollo]

Oh wait dang hang on.

So far, everyone Wedge has implicated as receiving the report dies.

Balthier said he got a "whisper", and he is now dead. I don't know about you, but this is worrying.

I completely disagree with that analysis.

Night 1: Laguna received the report but he died that night as he was shot by Yuffie - nothing to go on here
Night 2: Quina received the report and died that night - possible that the report killed Quina that night (though more likely died for being Del Murder )
Night 3: Yuffie would have receieved the report but couldn't - nothing to go on here.
Night 4: Biggs did not received the report for some reason, possibly a roleblocked in play, but Biggs did not die for receiving the report - nothing to go on here
Night 5: Balthier recieved the report and died the next night - possible that the report killed Balthier the next night
(SPOILER)

Night 1: Investigate Laguana report to Serah. These two are switched by bus driver Kain and Serah receives the benefit of doctor's protection and Laguna receives a report on himself right after he eats a bullet from Yuffie.
Night 2: Investigate Faris reports to Quina. Sadly our beloved princess is dead, that's what happens when you are too smart for your own good. 
Night 3: Investigate Rydia report to Yuffie. Yuffie told us that on night 3 she did a stake out preventing anyone from being able to target her. There goes my report.
Night 4: I didn't tell anyone about this report but I made an insinuation that no one questioned. The truth is I investigated Refia and sent the report to Biggs, that is why it upset me so much that not only was Refia dead the next morning but Biggs prematurely states he did not receive any stinking report. This and his pressure to get me to cough up my role name is why I voted against him. I didn't expect it to go any where, I expected to get lynched, which would have been better for the town. >_<
Night 5: In an effort to get a report thorough to someone I wanted to choose someone who was not high profile but did not seem to be scummy either. I sent my report to Balthier and I investigated Relm.

There is no direct pattern which associates those who receive Wedge's reports and their deaths.

[[M] Athena]

My mind is effectively smurfed at this point. I mean yeah, there were a lot of roles and some cool gimmicks like Mafia Poisoner, but most of qwerty's games were mindsmurfier than this.

Everything has changed.

For starters, I never expected Balthier to die last night. Secondly, it utterly baffles me that he was a Cop. Something doesn't smell right here.

Cop
Insane Cop
Spy (???)
Tracker
Gunsmith
weird investigator

Most games would have two or three of those investigator roles. This game appears to have them all. If all these people were actually active and actually played their roles correctly, then the mafia is utterly smurfed.

Remember, there are no Mafia Goons in this game. So each mafia has a powerful role much like each town. So far we found:

Mafia Godfather (Blank)
Mafia Poisoner (Galuf)
Mafia Ninja (Setzer)
Mafia Grifter (Relm) - wtf is this anyway?

There are probably at least two left. Here's where it gets interesting, because some of the possible mafia roles are some of the most powerful roles they can have.

Mafia Prostitute - Could have been the one blocking Wedge during the nights he wasn't getting any results confirmed
Mafia Framer - With so many cops in play, this role seems likely if you believe all the claims
Mafia Cop - Could have been how they figured out Balthier and why he was taken out last night. This is the second most dangerous mafia role in my opinion, depending on how it is used.

And finally, the ultimate mafia role: Mafia Janitor. Mafia Janitor screws with the one and only way the town can confirm roles: the flip. It's the ultimate mindsmurf role and it could be Jiro's coup de grace.

That means Balthier was possibly a Mafia Cop and Refia was a Mafia Spy.

I think at least one of the above roles are still in play, possibly two or three.

[[M] Athena]

I'll have to think about this some more, but fortunately my choice today is pretty clear.

##Vote: Penelo

Balthier basically confirmed Wedge's role yesterday with the 'whispers' he got about Relm. Therefore, he's probably what he says he is (role name please). Therefore, he's not a Serial Killer. Therefore, Penelo's FBI Agent claim is bogus.

1 down. You're next, Penelo. All of the conspirators against Biggs are falling.

[[M] Adama]

So unless the mafia has some sort of really annoying ability to PM people (see Mailmain, Courier or Whisperer), this confirms Wedge's innocence and his role.

While I don't have any scummy vibes coming from Wedge (who was totally absent yesterday) I would like to point to my comments earlier that just because he shows up clean doesn't mean he isn't a serial killer. I still wouldn't exactly be comfortable with Wedge just yet.

Oh yeah, I forgot about your investigation of Wedge. Though, why aren't you gunning for Wedge a bit more?
I understand why you might want to be hesitant, but if you know you're the FBI Agent, and you received a guilty result after a few days of innocent results, I wouldn't be hesitant, I would be outright stating that Wedge were the Serial Killer.
This just seems off to me.

I know, bed is calling me but I'll be quick, sweet sweet slumber. Right, basically, the main reason I've not been pushing Wedge off the proverbial cliff is essentially to keep him alive where it is possible for others to deduce his identity. The whole "Relm" gambit mentioned yesterday is what I'm gunning for; it's hard to uncover a SK when there's loads of people still left. Even now, there's nine of us still here. Not to mention not everyone really believes me in the first place, so what am I going to do, keep screaming blue murder till I'm blue in the face?

I kept my vote on Wedge didn't I yesterday. I know Wedge is the SK, my report says so and I think I'm sane. However is killing the SK right now possible? Given yesterday's antics with Relm, trying to divert attention to Wedge is hard. At the end of the day, I am just a lone voice and a lone vote.

[[M] Adama]

And now I really have to go bed.

[[M] Athena]

Oh yeah, and Luneth, I decided not to listen to you or trust you so I investigated you last night. Please be as so kind as to tell me what the result should have been so I can make sure you are not a dirty rotten liar.

Also if you could comment on my theories and how this day will affect the two-mafia theory that would be great. Thank you!

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

Well, we can waffle, or we can confirm Penelo's role the only way it can be done.

##Vote: Penelo

Even if there's a mafia janitor in play, it ill behooves them to smurf with this tactic.

[[M] Dave – Stepdad]

So unless the mafia has some sort of really annoying ability to PM people (see Mailmain, Courier or Whisperer), this confirms Wedge's innocence and his role.

While I don't have any scummy vibes coming from Wedge (who was totally absent yesterday) I would like to point to my comments earlier that just because he shows up clean doesn't mean he isn't a serial killer. I still wouldn't exactly be comfortable with Wedge just yet.

Oh yeah, I forgot about your investigation of Wedge. Though, why aren't you gunning for Wedge a bit more?
I understand why you might want to be hesitant, but if you know you're the FBI Agent, and you received a guilty result after a few days of innocent results, I wouldn't be hesitant, I would be outright stating that Wedge were the Serial Killer.
This just seems off to me.

That's how I would play it too, if I were an FBI Agent who found the serial killer. I would be jumping around going, "Hey guys, hey guys, hey guys" until someone listened or they lynched me. Either way it would tell I was telling the truth. I'm not afraid to be lynched, if you really need to lynch me to find out that Penelo is scummy, then go ahead do it. She claims I'm the serial killer and wants to pin everyone's death that I sent a report to on me, but it was the bandwagon speed lynch that killed Biggs, not my report and guess who was on that bandwagon.

##Vote: [M] Penelo

As far as who I investigated last night, well I chose Wakka, I wanted to see if I could confirm Luneth's story one way or another. I also expected Luneth and/or Rikku to get axed last night so I went with Balthier again, as he was finally the only one who seemed to be able to hear me. Having Balthier dead is very baffling to me, why did they go after him? Rikku has the ability to see who has a gun, why would the mafia let her live? Luneth laid everything on the table, if he was anywhere near correct, why is he still among us?

Well, personally, I think it was a waste of a good role since Balthier was never very active and didn't contributed much. I do recall that he even refused to vote. Actually, I don't think Wedge is a cop anymore. He probably does have some kind of investigative role, but he can't share what he finds out when he investigates. Such a shame to lose another cop.

Exactly, my role isn't a cop role, I am the Oracle. Basically I'm a psychic, and just like a real investigative psychic, most people think it's all hooey. However, I don't really believe that Balthier would have confirmed my role if he didn't really get a report from me. A grifter is a person who uses deception and fraud to swindle people, Balthier's claim that he received a message that says that Relm is "not what she seems" would be inline with someone who was a grifter. I believe she used my report to expose Relm instead of her own because it gave her the opportunity to confirm a townie, expose the mafia, and keep her own role private. Unfortunately, someone figured it out anyway.

[[M] Mike - Funny Dad]

real investigative psychic

[[M] Apollo]

At this point I want to know what Faris did last night.
Who did you watch?

[[M] Athena]

This is where Wakka comes in and tells us not to speed lynch.

Usually I love speed lynching because it makes the game go quicker and keeps it fresh. However, let's at least give Luneth some time to come on and talk out of his butt for a little while.