The "Call Me Maybe" song by Carly Rae Jepsen

[SuperMillionaire]

I accuse you of trolling because the alternative is believing that a 23-year-old male (so states your profile) who is still planning on going to college at some point in the future who is openly and actively interested in preteen celebrities as you are tends to send up some really creepy red flags. I have to hope you're lying (probably about your age) or trolling about something, otherwise it's just kind of... sad.

Also, I think the general consensus in this thread is that nobody really hates Justin Bieber for anything other than the fact that his music is bad. For reference, I'm a fan of quite a few musicians who could not in your wildest dreams be described as "manly" in the way you describe such as David Bowie (try looking up his bi-glamorous stint for most of his recording career). Granted, he probably qualifies as too sexually explicit for your tastes. In which case I urge you to grow a thicker skin, because if you can't learn to handle some of this stuff better without resorting to cries for it to be censored, you're going to have a hard time fitting into the adult world at large.

Also the idea that music started shedding its innocence in the 1960s is patently absurd. People regarded Elvis Presley as "obscene" in the 1950's because he swung his hips while he danced. Perhaps you should consider the argument that your concept of what is decent is a few decades behind everyone else. Frankly, you sound like my grandmother whenever you discuss any of the media, but even she wouldn't be caught dead listening to Justin Bieber on her iPod.

First off, rather than the celebrities themselves, I'm into the psychology and sociology about them, and what makes them develop into erotic adults. I'm in college now, and I'm not exactly into their actual works of entertainment. I've been reading a lot of TV Tropes lately, and a lot of these shows are guilty of what is referred on in-site as getting crap past the radar, or sneaking in apparently "adult" content, assuming that many of these shows even have radars (censors) to begin with.

Second of all, when you say that Justin Bieber's music is bad, what exactly makes it bad? For me, I think rappers, including both Anglo American rappers (such as LMFAO, Drake, and Lil Wayne) and various Latino reggaeton rappers, are ten times worse, and let me tell you the exact reasons why, in my opinion, they are bad:
Sleazy lyrics (perverts and inner-city criminals)
Explicit lyrics
Annoyingly strange repetitive beats
Strange noises in background
Promoting and reinforcing negative stereotypes of black and Hispanic people

Remember, while hip hop is still mainly for black (African and Afro-Caribbean American) people, an increasing number of Latino people (mostly Puerto Rican, but also people from other Latin American countries) like it too. There are also white rappers (such and Eminem and Yelawolf) and white fans of hip hop, and though there is a large percentage of white hip hop fans, the majority of rappers and hip hop fans are still either black or Latino.

I also hate some heavy metal bands, as well as rock bands such as Green Day, for the following reasons:
Overt nastiness (including sleazy lyrics, trash talk, and monster-like screaming)
Explicit lyrics
Scary horror themes
Anarchist themes

And when it comes to pop artists like Kesha, Katy Perry, Nicki Ninaj, and Cher Lloyd, I hate them for these reasons:
Glorifying getting drunk and wasted
Sleazy lyrics
Explicit lyrics
Overall eroticism, including strange outfits that bare too much skin

Lady GaGa, I will admit, is a bit more talented than the others above, but despite the name of one of her songs, she wasn't born that way, she morphed into that. In addition, Weird Al Yankovic released a parody called "Perform This Way," which basically mocks her for her fashion choices (because apparently, every day is Halloween for her), including wearing a meat dress. I just want to know: why do these artists do these outrageous things? Is there any justifiable reason for it?

As you can see, I made the reasons specific as to why I hate the artists that I mentioned above. And I'm not exactly a Justin Bieber fan, either. I think he's okay, but I'm not a major fan. Nor am I a major fan of Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus. Hannah Montana was okay, but Miley Cyrus is awful. The only reason why I had knowledge of Disney Channel stars in the first place was because my younger cousins watched those shows, and it happened to catch my attention. Hilary Duff, however, I think was better, though again, I had never actually watched Lizzie McGuire, and I only liked her music.

Third off, I'm aware that I have developed a rather cynical mindset, which is influenced by several of my teachers and life experiences over the years, though I wasn't exactly sheltered, as I too was exposed to these things. The difference is, I developed a consciousness about what themes are present in the media.

Fourth off, you're right, Elvis was considered obscene because of the way he danced, but keep in mind, that was only during his performances on television concerts, as the music video did not exist yet. However, most of his lyrics, while slightly sensual, didn't seem overly erotic. It was during the 1960s that the lyrics themselves began to shed their innocence; it wasn't an overnight transition, though, as it did so gradually, increasing steadily over time... at least until the turn of the new millennium, when it really took off.

And finally, the reason why many of us are so tolerant of what was originally shock and sleaze (which has now apparently become the norm) was because they kept raising the bar on how risky their performances can be, overpowering the censors. I think that this is a bar that needs to be lowered. Now, again, I am not saying that we should go back to 1950s censorship standards, nor am I saying that we should be as strict with censorship as China and the Middle East, but still, we should at least put restrictions on them. I wouldn't want to ban them, because I acknowledge that there are fans out there who like these artists, but I would still confine them to a niche by labeling them as MAX artists, restricting them to listener 18 and older (listener discretion is strongly recommended). I also believe in content rating for music, not to ban them, (which Australia has also done on a few occasions), but to regulate which artists are appropriate for which audiences.

Other times, though, I tend to hate a song because of the subject matter discussed in the song, including "Set the World On Fire" by Fun, because it glorifies getting drunk and wasted. I don't get what's so fun about getting drunk and wasted, and when you're drunk in a bar, and you either pass out or start a fight, the police will carry you to jail.

I dont get how giving your phone number to a stranger is such a great idea, you either get stalked and murdered or have sex with them and get an STI.

Also the song is called "We are Young"

You're right, or perhaps maybe she was stalking him. Then again, he may have been a next door neighbor for years, and it was only now that she finally got a chance to know him (though in the music video itself, the boy she liked turned out to be gay). And it's abbreviated as STD (sexually transmitted disease).

The thing is, we need to be more conscious of what these lyrics actually mean. I think that in music classes in school, music teachers need to educate their students on what these lyrics actually mean, and songwriters also need to be more conscious of what they're writing. But it's not just music; they also need to be educated about the themes that they see on television as well.

Please acknowledge that I am only trying to make valid points, though you have also made valid points as well.